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Adding OEM Remote Start - Kits & Parts Explained (detailed) - 2011+


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#21 OFFLINE   RustyEdge

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 04:16 PM

That's awesome, probably fits my needs better since I won't have to pay $50 a year for the data plan! 

 

Does anyone know how much the dealer would charge to cut two new keys?









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#22 OFFLINE   candurin

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 04:21 PM

I got mine cut at Home Depot. Lowes, Ace or any local place that cuts keys can take care of it for you. I'd imagine a few dollars at most.

But, since you'll need your dealer to activate auto start, they might cut them for you during that process at no additional charge (couldn't hurt to ask).

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 04:39 PM

Perfect, thanks again!  I actually found another seller for the same kit but with only one key which is even better.  I really only need one key with the remote feature and then it's one less key to have cut.

 

Now all I have to do is connect this antenna to the TPMS in the LH rear panel and have the system activated?  That seems too too easy!



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Posted 10 January 2015 - 05:15 PM

It's that easy (disclaimer: the two little plastic plug/screws that hold the side panel to the floor pan take the longest to remove).

My install took me 30 minutes.

Just make sure you have a t50 torx bit. I had to go buy this one: http://www.homedepot...ST50/202913549/

The only caveat would be if your edge does not include the wire harness for the hood switch. But I've seen those on eBay as well. You probably have it though.

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 05:25 PM

Rusty,

Scroll down to page 154:

http://www.partschea...start-truck.pdf

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 06:17 PM

That's fantastic!  Thanks so much for your help.

 

Those instrustions say to cut & program the new keys before installing the rmst but I can do that afterwards correct?  Figured I had to have Ford turn the remote start on anyway so might as well have them cut the keys there too (unless they charge too much).

 

-Russ



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Posted 10 January 2015 - 06:40 PM

My pleasure. The dealer will likely program the key for you. Mine offered when activating my cellular remote access, but I didn't have my keys on hand.

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 06:42 PM

This might be the best solution for me as well. The SmartPhone just seems to be too much $ and effort.

What is the realistic reach for the 100 series start?

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Posted 12 January 2015 - 08:40 PM

Candurin,

Do you know if the long range remote start is a rear driver panel installation only as well?
CL3Z-19G364-A? Are there different variants? I figured if going already for an RF start, why not long range, as long as it is plug&play. However, looking at some of the pictures on ebay it seems to have harnesses beyond rear panel?

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Posted 12 January 2015 - 11:04 PM

Still all done in the back. This kits includes the rmst (shock sensor) box and long range aerial antenna in addition to the the 100 series antenna.

You simply run the long range aerial antenna cable up the c-pillar column and mount the antenna on the rear trunk window.

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 06:13 PM

Thanks.

Is the bi-directional like a long range, just with confirmation? And does not need the VSS?

 

BTW. I got some quotes for the long range installed in the $485 range.



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Posted 13 January 2015 - 06:28 PM

The range will be determined by line of sight. In other words if you're standing in a field and your truck is 500 feet away, it will communicate. Same distance with buildings in the way it will never work. He'll half the time my factory installed 1 way remote wouldn't even work from inside my house.
$485 sounds like a lot, do it yourself and save a ton of money

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 08:20 PM

It is a bit pricey.
I believe the long-range plug&play part is CL3Z-19G364-B. Online about $300 with shipping, + the hood sensor ($25). Assuming about $100 for activation at the dealership if I did it myself. I figured, I wouldn't save that much.

The dealer I use for service doesn't even want to sell this one. He has some after market model.

Does anyone know if the bidirectional has the same range (1000 ft)just with feedback?

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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:22 AM

Yes, bidirectional and long range use the same antennas.

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Posted 09 February 2015 - 08:21 PM

I just installed my unit and I can't say how easy it actually was!  20 minutes and I was done.  I tried to get the key cut at Home Depot but the guy there said he wasn't allowed to do it and he would have no way of charging me.  I said "just charge me for one of your blanks and I'll take a blank key home or you can keep it" sorry I can't help you.....

 

Also tried calling a few dealers around me, Northern NJ, and none of them actually perform this themselves.   Rather they hire someone else to do it and basically everyone quited me $100 just for the activation and another $100 to cut the key.  $100 to cut a key really....

 

Gonna go to the local hardware store but I don't see any way around the $100 activation charge without driving really far to get to a dealer.  I gotta say that it's kinda dissapointing being charged so much for 15 minutes worth of labor. 

 

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 12:20 AM

That's a shame rusty, the dealer should be able to bill you a half hour for the activation. You can also see if a local pep boys, Firestone etc has the IDS tool (many service centers do).

As far as the key goes, try lowes or a local locksmith. It's an easy key to cut. Just tell the Home Depot manager that you assume all responsibility. Have you tried Walmart?
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Posted 10 February 2015 - 08:13 AM

I'm still going to try and find another dealer who can help me.  As for the key, I haven't tried anywhere else besides HD but I think my local Lowes has the automated key cutting machine and I'm not sure they have another one.  Going to try the true value in town, I think they'll be able to cut it for me.  

 

Didn't even think of Walmart actually, but they are right around the corner as well so I'll keep them in mind.



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 05:20 PM

So just an update... I got the key cut at the local hardware store for $4!  Win there!  I programmed it myself so all the keyless features work and it starts the car.  I called the dealer today and they put a call into their guy who installs the remote starts for them, apparently not a normal Ford tech, and he said that the system I got should just work and doesn't need to be hooked up to the IDS.  In fact he has never hooked them up to the computer for activation before.

 

So I thought maybe since I saw two procedures for programming the keys in this thread, one from the manual and one from the remote start learning, that I would try the remote start learning one.  Did that and still no remote start, like I was thinking anyway.  Called the dealer back and explained that I found the installation instructions from Ford which states specifically to use the IDS tool and exact steps.  The service rep asked his tech and he never heard of the activation either...

 

I have an appt Friday morning to have them take a look and I'm going print out the instructions from Ford, thanks to candurin.  Well see what happens now...

 

-Russ


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Posted 21 February 2015 - 12:32 PM

Had a trip to the dealer yesterday and everything is activated and working like a charm!  They charged an hours labor, so more than most were experiencing, but even with that the total cost was only $252.  This includes an extra $22 for the hood switch.

 

Now I have a third key and the remote feature works at a pretty good distance too.  Granted I've only tested within line of sight, but mostly I start it when it's in the driveway anyway so I don't really need a lot of distance.  I like that it has the auto feature too so I don't have to remember to leave the heat on when I get out of the car at night.

 

I wonder if the auto feature will automacitally sense the outside temperature and adjust accordingly?  (i.e. turn on ac or heat when necessary)  Does anyone know?  I read that one of the units did but wasn't sure the 100 series would.

 

Thanks,

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Posted 21 February 2015 - 03:53 PM

The conditions of the auto climate do change with outside temperature. The owners manual has a full explanation:

Automatic climate control

For hot weather conditions:
The interior cabin will be set to 72°F (22°C).
The cooled seats (if equipped and if the feature is selected to AUTO in the message center) will be set to high.

For cold weather conditions:
The interior cabin will be set to 72°F (22°C).
The heated seats (if equipped and if the feature is selected to AUTO in the message center) will be set to high.
Rear defrost/heated mirrors (if equipped) will be activated.

For moderate weather conditions:
The interior cabin will be heated, cooled, or off, based upon the previous operating state (last ignition-on cycle).
Heated/cooled seats (if equipped) will be deactivated.
Rear defrost/heated mirrors (if equipped) will be deactivated.




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