druck52

How could that much rust build up in just 100 miles? I think it would have to sit for weeks in humid weather.

 

Before taking it to the dealer - try a few hard stops from 50 mph or so.

Its not that it buildt up in 100 miles, its that it buildt up sitting on the dealers lot.

Hi druck. :D And what exactly did I state that was wrong? A vehicle sitting on a Dealers lot will usually not have a build up of surface rust on the rotors that a few stops will not eliminate. Certainly not enough surface rust that it would not have been eliminated after 100 miles of driving.

 

So, discounting outside variables such as his vehicle was sitting in a foot of water on the Dealers lot or all 100 miles on his odometer was highway driving with no brake applications, we both came up with the exact same conclusion: That it was most likely a rotor problem and that MKXfan should make a Service Appointment to have his concern diagnosed and taken care of under Warranty.

 

Seems like both yours and my advice are pretty spot on, other than a possible slight disagreement about the final amount of rust that may/may not be on his rotors. And since neither of us will be able to verify the rust total over the Internet, do we really need to debate how much rust is/is not on MKXfan's rotors? As you certainly know from past experience, we already have enough of those types of members on the forums!

 

So I still luv ya druck! And I will certainly respect you tomorrow too! :yup:

 

Good luck. :beerchug:

Yes you are right to take it in to be checked out. You are wrong that rust cannot cause a vibration. And mild rust will go away after a few stops, but if its built up a while, then the only way to stop the vibration is to either machined the rotors, or take a sanding disc to them. I have seen it many times with cars that sat on our lot for long periods of time. Also, ford will not pay a warranty claim on something like that, it usually gets charged to the new car department and not ford. But like you said they should take it in. And while I may not know how much rust is on the rotors, I can speak from expeirence and not from what the owners manual says. And i'm not trying to be a dick, just trying to help.

Hi MKXfan. :D While the "grinding" sound you first heard was likely surface rust on the rotors (as the Salesman stated), that rust would have been gone after the first two or three stops (at the most). And just as an FYI: You will get that surface rust again if your vehicle sits unused for a full day or two, or in very humid wet weather. Just the way it is.

 

However, at this point the pulsating feeling in the steering wheel would not be from rust on the rotors. When you can feel a "pulsating" feeling in the steering wheel during braking that goes away when you are not braking, it is most often a warped front brake rotor or rotors. If you feel the "pulsation" in the brake pedal (or the seat of your pants) but not the steering wheel, it would likely be the rear rotors that are the culprit

 

I would recommend you make a Service Appointment and take your MKX in so the problem can be diagnosed and corrected.

 

Good luck. :beerchug:

Sorry bbf but now you are wrong. Rust build up can and does cause a vibration when braking if it has built up for long enough. Sometimes a few very hard stops will clean the rotors, but not always. If that doesn't work then he needs to take it in to the dealer. They may be able to "deglaze" the rotors or they may need to be turned. I have seen this many times with vehicles that sat on the lot in the same position for a long time. Either way the dealer can fix it and it will be free.

I've just purchased a 2008 AWD Limited - very happy so far.

 

A question about the auto headlamps . . . Is there a way to always have the headlamp on even during the day in the auto headlamp mode? I'd like to have them on all the time for safety reasons. Thanks in advance for any guidance on this.

 

Tom

Turn on the regulart headlamps.

Thanks Druck52 but unfortunately one of the white clips snapped off in frustration of trying to get it back in but mainly because the center portion of the motor bracket snapped off which you can see in the picture and would be near impossible to glue back. I ordered another motor which should be in by Wednesday. I thinking I should have ordered 2 motors because I don't see the other one going much easier. Motor cost about 30.00 so it isn't too bad.

Thanks for the info however

Well i'm glad it worked out then, the motor is fairly cheap. You are lucky you can get just the motor. Alot of the mirrors can only be ordered as an assembly.

A few more pictures of mirror motor and what you will see once the glass is off. The motor seems fairly easy to replace (3 torx screws), I removed it but didn't totally take the wiring harness off

 

Going "Ghetto" for a couple of days 'till this is corrected

 

 

Various motor pics

 

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This shows the mirror glass removed from what should be attached to the mirror motor

The 2 silver clips get transferred to the new mirror. There are a total of 8 small black clips that hold the glass on. Very easy to "Snap" new mirror into place once old mirror is removed. The key is getting the old one off without damage

The only way to get those white clips back into the motor are to take the boots off the motor, then pop those white clips off the plate, then push the small ends of the clips into the larger ends of the boots. then you pop the clips into the motor and tuck the boots back in around them to seal the motor. Its a pain but can be done. then reattach the plastic ring. That should work assuming its the same set up as most of fords mirrors.

For the past couple months I've had a problem with my 07 edge, whereby the fan will be on one minute, then slow down, and then sometimes shut all the way off. Took it to the dealership and of course they couldnt' get it to do it. Anyone else have this problem?? Or know of a solution??

Do you have auto air, If so is it set to auto? that could be normal operation. If not it could be a bad motor, resistor or maybe ground connection.

connections are pretty universal. RCA is RCA, terrestrial radio is terrestrial radio. my point is, I would bet, if a 'new' H/U claims Sirius compatibility, the antenna from your 'newer' model Edge will fit. There are not like 50 different style Sirius antenna connections.... it should work fine.

 

here is a great resource

There is a good chance that it will not work. Not because the attennas are different but because the recievers are different, and the way the reciever plugs into the head unit is different for each company. I have a pioneer in my truck and i have to have a pioneer sirius reciever. They do not plug in with an rca cable, the pioneer uses a square connector. i know there are different ones for kenwood, pioneer and some others. The Edge also has a reciever unit, not just the attena. It still may work but you better investigate further. If you just want to use the attenta and plug that into the reciever, then yes that should work if the connector is the same.

yyzedge

 

In reply to your problem to slushing noise in tank I have the same vehicle as yours. I brought my vehicle back to the dealer twice and they cannot find a solution to the problem . The additional problem I am having is when I fill the tank I can hear a loud banging when you come to sudden stop. The dealer stated he cannot drop the tank without Ford's authorization. I have reported this problem to Ford corporate customer service, they are looking into it, but in the meantime told me not to fill the tank at this time. I would like to know where do you stand with your dealership on this problem, have they already given you a new edge or did they find a solution to your problem. If they have, can you give me the name of your dealership and the service manager's name so that my dealership can call them. I am finding it very difficult to deal with Ford, they are not admitting to having this problem.

 

 

Alsenatore

Your dealership is wrong. They do not need ford's authorization to drop, inspect or replace the tank assuming that something is wrong. It is a warranty issue and not something that needs prior authorization. You need to try another dealership, or tell your service manager you want to speak to the area ford rep.

My used (but new to me) '07 Edge was originally intended for the American market but was recently brought into Canada probably as part of a fleet sale. The large numbers on the speedometer are MPH rather than KM/H.

I'm used to driving at 100 km/h, not 60 MPH. This may seem trivial but does anyone know if it is difficult to change the faceplates?

Unless it's rather simple and inexpensive, they'll stay as they are.

Thanks

You would have to change the whole instrument cluster.

I may understand the roll back if the incline is big enough, agreed, but one thing is on "a big enough incline" (in which my 2000 Taurus never did, BTW, on any ever!!!) and another is on "any incline", even on a slightly inclined driveway...

All we are looking for, the ones who had complained, is to get that fixed from them, or at least improved, that doesn't mean that we could not use the car, or that we do not like the car, I love the Edge, but that is annoying, period...if they can, good for all of us, if not, we will learn how to live with that problem (becasue to me, it is a problem)...period

 

BTW and a quick comparison, I have a friend that has an small Tracker, a 4 cylinder small SUV type car, well this Tracker if you place it in reverse going down a hill, is able to climb the hill backwards just in iddle...not even in drive...

I never said you didn't like the car. I'm just letting you know that it does happen in other cars. I also have an edge and we live in the S.F. bay area, lots of hills and its not that big of a deal to me or my wife. I guess we just are used to it.

Sorry but it is, I almost hit a car yesterday in a hill.

Well manual transmision is designed to be driven differently, drivers that use stick usually get used to drive with both feet, not our case, but even though if you leave the transmission engaged it will not roll neither...

Anyway given that you answer my question with a question, I think that I will do the same: Why then other automatic transmissions from hundreds of other cars do not roll back, hundreds of them do not roll back, even from Ford, my 2000 Taurus with 125,000 miles do not roll back, want more, maybe you will use the weight excuse, right? Well I used to drive a E-350 in my job, a huge Ford van, double in size and weight of the Edge, and it never rolled back...It is a design problem, to what extend it will or could be fixed is the real question, the TSB was not posted in vane, and it will not be so long before it will become a recall...you will see...

All cars will roll back on a big enough incline. Our old blazer would roll back on our drive way which was not a big incline at all.

what do you mean, do you have some sort of reference manual or access to something that would confirm/deny this?

I'm a ford tech. I don't post often, but I post once in awhile when i can help. To take it off. you pretty much just pry it off and then snap the new one on.

If the budget allows I'll be ordering the drivers side from Lincoln.

The F250 mirror cost $90.00 so I figure you can add a 1 in front of the 9 for the MKX.

I was working with a Ford dealer till someone mention that the MKX mirror is "Driver's Side Electrochromic (Auto Dimming)".

 

Which brings up the passenger mirror.

Why would they put a concave (wide angle) mirror on a mirror that already has a wide angle view :wacko: ? If they do I won't be replacing ours.

 

The instructions for the F250 are very detailed (5 pages), maybe the Edge/MKX will be the same.

 

A word to the wise:

If Ford or GM file bankruptcy and you car is in their service dept. you WILL get you car back SOMEDAY.

 

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You were very lucky to get instructions. I would say about 90% or more of fords parts do not come with instrctions.

I'll let you experiment with prying it apart & postin up the results Limited mirror bodies are painted, so not to excited by that prospect

 

 

 

 

not sure how many parts you have bought from a parts department at a dealer, but in my experience, I wouldn't expect any directions. I would expect a box and a mirror. you might get directions if you buy an 'accessory', and they will suck if you do, but not really for "parts" as they are assuming the dealer is installing and don't often have directions for sold parts. case in point, I just installed a new sliding glass window motor in a Ford Mustang for a buddy to help him save money, not a single instruction included with that 'part'.

Lex you are right. There will be no instructions included. I believe on those you grab the mirror and pull. But without looking it up i can't be 100% sure of that.

I like the stuff thats not on FM or AM

 

NASCAR Channel, MADdog sports radio, college football games, all the pro fottball games, and I have not tried yet but I hope I can hear all the NHL games. Right there its worth it for me.

I'm with you on the NHL, but they play very few to no games on sirius. They play most on XM. I wish we could get the NHL games though.

I guess the question needs to be changed, cuz so far no one seems to know how to do that.

How about this rather, does anyone have the electrical diagram for the lightning system for the EDGE equipped with foglights???

Once we get a hold of that, we can figure it out fairly easily.

So please...if you're asking anyone about it, ask them if they have access to the schematic of the electrical system in the EDGE... that simplyfies the work on how to do the job because it will give us the colours of all the wires and locations of relays involved.

 

PM if anyone has it or finds it, i can figure it out myself for us all once I get my hands on that.

 

Well I could get you that, but seeing as I'm just a stupid mechanic I just can't figure out how to look it up. Sorry I can't help you!

I finally changed my oil today at 5000 miles, not the 7500 recommended. I went to walmart, got the Motorcraft 5W-20 synthetic blend, Ford filter and proceeded home to drain the hot oil. The fun started when I tried to get the old filter off. I tried a cap type filter wrench first, it kept slipping, then I tried a squeeze type clamp wrench. After partially crushing the filter, I still couldn't get enough leverage to turn it. Next I tried driving it off with a hammer and flat tip screwdriver, still didn't budge. Finally I used a 4" C-clamp tightened very tight with C on the bottom of the filter, I put a pry bar through the C and finally it turned and slowly untightened. I'm glad I didn't have to resort to the screwdriver driven through the filter, that's just way too messy. I don't anticipate the next oil change to be quite as hard, since I didn't ask "The Hulk" to tighten the new one for me. I put exactly 5 and 1/2 quarts in and that brought the level on the dipstick up to the correct level. I don't know why Ford put that filter on that tight, I guess they want you to give up and bring it back to the dealer, no way, I'm the only one that's going to touch my 2008 Copper Limited.

Ford puts them all on that tight from the factory. I don't know why they do it, but believe me it can really be a pain in the butt. You are lucky that the filter is very easy to get to on the edge.

Already did it, and it took less than 15 minutes to remove it- take the pics- and put it back in place... but only cuz I stopped to have a beer

 

How long would it take you to do it DRUCK??? Oh wait, you probably need to check the book and see how it's done first! ROFLOL!!!!

Well good for you. I hope you never need to take your car to the dealership for a repair. But i'm sure you can just do it all yourself.

This doesn't work on SEL+ with Audiophile system. Only the radio gets louder. Sounds like the beeps are coming from the hatch.

The warning beep does not come from the radio and does not change with radio volume.

Hi Smackya. First of all, if you have a six button remote, you do not have Factory Alarm in your Edge, you have a Ford Accessory Alarm with Remote Start (i.e. Aftermarket Accessory). Your system was not installed at the Factory on the Assembly Line. It was installed after the Factory Assembly Line in a separate area, and possibly even at the Dealer where you purchased. Either way, it is not a Ford Factory Alarm System. Ford Factory Alarm Systems have a four button remote.

 

Next: Please go back to the first post in this thread and read the question that was asked. "Kbillydj", the OP (original poster) asked how to disable the honking from the factory door locking system. He did not ask about the Factory Alarm.

In fact, no one brought up an alarm system at all, until "jenetix" mistakenly thought that he/she had the factory alarm, when in reality they had an aftermarket alarm manufactured by "KARR".

 

We answered kbillydj's and jenetix's questions, over a month and a half ago. You then reopened an old thread (nothing wrong with that). What there is something wrong with is incorrectly answering a question that nobody asked (what the factory Alarm does), which will only serve to confuse anyone who wants to know how to stop their horn from honking when they lock the doors. To compound your error, you do not even have a "Factory Alarm System". You thought you had a Factory Alarm System.

 

If you have a six button remote, you have the Ford Aftermarket Accessory Alarm system. You do not have a Factory Alarm System. Unfortunately, you are mistaken.

 

Next: If you read my previous post correctly, you would have read the following (underlined), "Also, the horn honking on the Factory System has absolutely nothing to do with the alarm. The honking only deals with the doors being locked. That's it.

 

The horn has nothing to do with the alarm being armed or not. Once you turn key in the ignition to the "Locked" position, the "SecuriLock Anti-Theft System" is armed. Again, the horn has nothing to do with the alarm system being armed or not. It is strictly a confirmation of the doors being locked (on the second press of the keyfob lock button).

 

The above quote (again, in red) already makes it clear that what I copied and pasted from the Owners Manual deals with the Locking System, not the Alarm system. Because a Factory Alarm does not honk the horn. And again, you do not have a Factory Alarm System. It is a Ford Aftermarket Accessory, installed after the Assembly line. Clearer now?

 

I was perfectly polite in my reply to your incorrect information. You were rude and incorrect just now.

 

So, as you can see, you are the one mistaken. Perhaps you can research your information better before shooting off at others. Especially before you insult others when you are wrong.

 

In fact, I have been very polite in some of the other posts you have created today, where you stated completely incorrect information. I merely politely corrected the misinformation you provided, without being rude or condescending.

 

Other than what I have just pointed out to you (facts), and although you were wrong and rude, I will not sink to insulting you.

 

Even if you were correct, which you were not, you still did not need to be rude. The Internet has plenty of rude individuals, how about being one of the helpful ones instead?

 

Good luck.

bbf you were much nicer in your response than I was, but his insults of mechanics really made me mad. He insults mechanics but much of his info is just wrong. I almost didn't respond to him, but i couldn't read post after post of his.

I'm looking to see if anyone has any pics of the rear of the NAV SYSTEM (where all the wires are plugged in). Maybe from a previous install you did..... or someone that's about to remove the NAV SYSTEM, maybe you could take some pics and posted on here.

Hell or if someone has removed the NAV sys, maybe you could take it out from whatever closet you have in, and take a few pics of it.... could ya???

 

Thank you.

Why don't you take yours out. You seem to know everything. It very easy to do. Oh wait i'm a mechanic so I guess I must be to dumb to figure it out.

Actually the upgrade would come from MICROSOFT, not from FORD and it IS a free upgrade if gotten through microsoft website.

IF you opt to go to a FORD dealer, the dealer will charge you the labour of having a worker take the time to do it. So it really is up to you if you wanna get it for free, or pay for it.

From what MICROSOFT gave me to understand, you can get the CD from the dealer as well (FOR FREE, as any update for any microsoft software is). The thing is, will the dealer let you have it for free, when they know they can just say they dont have any left and make you pay for the service to them rather???

Anyway, I got my update at the dealer but fortunately, I had paid for the SPECIAL SERVICING PACKAGE, where all my maintenance is covered... which took care of the update as well.

 

I would look online for the update and put it on a DVD to install onto the system myself if I hadnt had it done already by the dealer.

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Smack i don't know where you get your info from, but alot of it is just wrong. The dealership does not get a CD with the sync updates. It is done with the IDS just like all other updates are done. The IDS is updated online from ford. You really need to check your info before posting it.

Wait a Sec.....

 

If lubing the calipers is not in the Ford Maintenance Schedule, why do YOU have to cough up $525 for the repair. At 19K, pads SHOULD NOT require replacement -unless you are a hard driver and it can be proven to Ford that YOU are at fault.

 

Sound like a warranty issue.

 

pads are only warrantied for 12 months or 18,000 miles. After that it is not warranty even if 19,000 seems low.

Ok so I have searched and still really havent found a straight answer (people tend to stray off topics here, but whatever).

 

I have 2007 Edge SE. I want to get the newer OEM Navigation with the chrome knobs. I dont have sync...so thats really not an issue (i think). Are these truly plug and play or will I have to get it programmed. Also does it matter if its an audiophile unit or sync unit or whatever unit since I have none of that already in my car?? Iv'e heard about part numbers and sync this and sirius that. So i am a little confused. Basically....I would love the best advise to get the new 2008 Navigation into my 2007 SE Edge with no bells and whistles (ie sync or sirius).

 

Now with regard to my ipod. What interface do you all think is the most "user friendly" with the navigation unit. What I mean is....How well do the on screen functions work?

 

I used to have an Avic z1 in my f150 and i liked the ipod interface......I am just wondering if we are able to operate the ipod as easy with our OEM navs.

 

Thanks all.....

You will need to program the nav if your car did not come equiped with it orginally. It will not matter which nav you get since you do not have the adiophile or sync or sub. I don't know about the Ipod, I know the nav with not operate it without an add on interface like triptunes.