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I've also found "AUTO" to be problematic and annoying at times. I probably go to manual inputs about 50% of the time. I still love my Edge, but of all the vehicles I've owned in my life, going back to a 1976 Pinto, this is the only one that has ever made me say "what the ****!" a couple of times a month. I'm glad that Ford is trying new things, but also that they pay attention and adjust their technology if things don't work out.

After reading through all this it seems that the options are: A. Buy and install the Ford Homelink visor for $346 plus tax. B. Acquire / Exchange your non-Homelink visor for one from a Limited (with the owners approval) C. Install it yourself for about $35 and lots of time invested, provided you have the appropriate fabrication and sewing skills to insure it doesn't look like an embarrasment when you're done. D. Velcro attach your garage control to the inside of the storage compartment on the drivers side door where it's hidden under the lip of the pocket within easy reach for the cost of two minutes in time and a couple of dollars worth of velcro. As much as I like "A", I went with "D".

I have a U.S. spec 2012 SEL and I can assure you that it does have ambient lighting. It's all a matter of what options you get with your vehicle.

I have the same problem although it probably only jumps back to the first album / song every other time I restart the car. It didn't happen until the last software update. In my case it's the group 38 Special and the song "Hold On Loosely" which I used to like. Now when it kicks in I just curse. I'd delete the song if I thought it would help, but I know it will just start defaulting to the next one in order. I like everything about the last update but this little error. I suppose it will be fixed with the next upgrade.

The Ford website says that the 205A package includes all of the 204A features. If ambient lighting is part of 204A, then you will have it with 205A.

I installed a set two weeks ago. The front and right rear went on fine. The left rear clips both went on but made contact with the rotor and made a loud screaching noise . I had to trim them as much as I dared and then used a dremmel tool to grind the leading edges of the clips down a bit. The contact wasn't caused by rust. I'm just guessing that there was a slight variation in either the rotor or caliper that made one of those parts a little bit bigger. I bought mine through the Amazon website where I got the black with the MGP logo for about $180 with free shipping. I've always thought the exposed brakes looked like a blemish on the looks of the vehicle and was just trying to hide them. I initially just installed them on the right side so I could see how they looked. After a week, I decided that I didn't like the glossy black and I thought the fake bolts looked cheesy so I repainted all four of them flat black. The glossy black draws the eye to them, and I was going for a subdued look. I much prefer the flat black and it blends well with the lower body plastic molding.

I've just hit 30,004 miles and roughly 17 months of ownership. Here are my latest fuel economy results: 5,000 Mile Average / Total Average: 1st = 25.376 / 25.376, 2nd = 25.677 / 25.5269, 3rd = 25.816 / 25.6261, 4th = 25.738 / 25.6531, 5th = 25.938 / 25.7097, 6th = 25.982 / 25.755 To summarize, my lifetime average MPG is 25.75 and I've seen about half an MPG in improvement between the first 5,000 miles and the most recent 5,000 miles. I put my canoe rack on yesterday so I'm assuming that the increased drag along with air conditioner use is going to drag things down a bit over the next few months. To date I've had no mechanical problems with the vehicle. I did just notice that the Ford oval on the front has begun to discolor and I don't think that should be happening, but that's the extent of my issues.

I see that you provided this information in the Ecoboost forum: "Very concerned, here on week 3 of owning my 2012 ecoboost edge, purchased with 8500 miles on it from big GM car lot, had fresh oil change, and I see the oil is down to add mark after just 450 miles, I know it was full when I bought it, and last week i saw it at 3/4 down. So its off to the Ford dealer to see what they have to say. Quite a damper on my enthusiasm over purchase of the most expensive car i have ever bought., by 2x." I can't answer your question but I'd be really interested to know what you find out. A used car with only 8,500 miles on it and it's going through that much oil - my suspician meter is pinging. Can Ford tell you anything on the vehicle sales history? Although I don't know if it could in any way be the cause, a lot of newish cars are hitting the market after being flood damaged in the New York area from the storm. With that few miles I can't help but wonder about that.

What year, model, engine Edge do you have? How many miles does it have? Did you check the oil when you first purchased it to verify the oil level? How far was it down when you decided it was low? If you initially checked the oil level and it was full, how many miles have you put on it until you determined that you have a problem?

If you've driven 300 miles and have an MPG of 13 that would tell me that you've gone through 23 gallons of fuel and I suspect that you haven't. Off the top of my head, the total tank capacity is about 18 gallons. In my case, the reserve light comes on somewhere at the 3 gallons remaining / 15 gallon fill up point. Have you hit that? As noted previously, I think that you have a lot of idle time involved in the new car. From the dealer instructions before you leave the lot, syncing phones, and playing with the display, interior light options, etc. Even the mildest driver probably tramps on the gas pedal a few times just to get a feel for the accelration. I certainly did and I'm normally not one to do that. I'd also be suspicious of the display readout for awhile. If you haven't already done your first fill-up, that will be the next thing to throw you off on your MPG estimates. Many to include myself have noted that the fuel filler neck design causes the gas nozzle to kick off two or three gallons short of full. That experience varies by fuel nozzle design. I know that I end up trickling fuel into the tank after that point, and that introduces a lot of variation from one fill-up to the next if you're trying to track your MPG.

I read the article and did a bit of looking around the internet on the subject. There isn't much to be found but from a few discussions I think I learned that the coolant is being pumped through the turbo system in a natural process called thermosyphon which is a form of natural convection. Therefore there wouldn't be an actual pump running.

They're available through Amazon(dot)com if you search for "Ford Edge Caliper Covers". The pricing is better. At the moment they only have the 2011/2013 cover available with the MGP logo. I want the Ford logo so I was out of luck. It's about $30 cheaper than MGP sells them for so it's clear that MGP has a pretty good profit margin. I did contact the seller and tell them the Ford logo version was available from MGP and that I'd buy it if they'd stock it. Both Ford and MGP logo's are available for earlier model years. (please do me a favor and bug them to stock the Ford logo version)

The reliability always gets pulled down by the MyFord Touch system which I think is my favorite part of the vehicle. My wife drives a 2009 Mercedes E-Class with the same large display with the same mapping, phone, and entertainment features. But it's all controlled by buttons. It takes twice as long to find anything drilling down through control layers via buttons and I think it's about three times as likely to cause you to have an accident from being distracted, but I haven't seen Consumer Reports slam them for it. I've had that car for three years and still can't work my way through it while it took at most two weeks before I was comfortable with the Ford functionality.

What are your driving conditions like? Lots of stop and go and idling? I don't know how the computer works on the Limited, but on my SEL it is set to measure fuel economy for time periods, not the whole tank. Off the top of my head, I think that I can set it for a 5-minute, 15-minute, or 30-minute feedback. I usually like to keep it set for 5-minute feedbacks because it gives me fairly real time information on what the current driving conditions are doing to me. If you are measuring by fill-ups you need to know that there is a lot of variation due to the filler neck design (combined with the additional variation introduced by different fuel nozzle designs) so it's hard to get an accurate sense of things. (Go to the regular Ford Edge forum and read up on the issues with the fuel fill-ups.) Due to this issue, I don't trust any single fuel fill-up to give me an accurate MPG. It's only by collecting data over time that I can get an average result that seems pretty consistent.

I've had 78 fill-ups so far. My worst calculation was 18.8 MPG which came around Christmas when I was just going to the store and back with bad stop and go holiday shopping traffic on snowy roads. My best was 30.7 from an all highway trip at about 70 MPH. As of today, my lifetime combined average is 25.72

I traded in a Honda Odyssey mini-van that I'd had for over 230,000 miles. It was still running great, but I no longer needed the space, and I just didn't want to drive a mini-van anymore. As far as my vehicle choice, I had downselected to either a Subaru Outback or an Edge. I wanted a vehicle that was just big enough to carry a 15 foot canoe, and had a little higher seating position and ground clearance. I finally ruled out the Subaru because there was only one local dealership and that was quite a distance away. I like having service support available wherever I go and there always seems to be a Ford dealership nearby. I drive about 20,000 miles a year, so the slight improvement in fuel efficiency from the Eco-boost made that attractive even with the increased price tag. I did waver on the 3.5, but after I test drove both, I decided that I did not care for the way that the transmission shifted. With the Ecoboost, the whole powertrain just seemed much more responsive and enjoyable.

- This weekends observation of the impact of aggressive driving on fuel economy: On Saturday morning I filled up my Edge and loaned it to my daughter for the day so that I could perform some maintenance on her car. I don't like giving her my car because I know she has the aggressive need to get to the next red light as quickly as she can. After my fill-up the display showed my projected range to be 463 miles. It's usually within 10-miles of that figure for me. So my daughter returns the vehicle with 110 miles of actual use and the display is now saying the range is 307 miles. The projection range has dropped by 156-miles for 110 of actual use. Essentially, her aggressive ate up an extra 46-miles worth of gas that I wouldn't have used if I'd gone to the same place and back, perhaps a minute or two slower. As an aside, I now have 27,575 miles on the odometer with a lifetime average fuel economy of 25.75 MPG. At this rate, I might reach a lifetime average of 26 by the time I reach 100,000! When I get to 30,000 miles I'll post again with my most recent 5,000 mile average.

I don't know anything about the validity of what you read, but I can report that after 25,000 plus miles I haven't heard any noises like that. The only noise I would expect to hear after shutting the engine off might be the electric fan blowing a bit, and perhaps metalic noise of a hot engine cooling off. I think that the best use of the EPA rating is for the consumer to compare one vehicles performance to another during the buying process since they were all measured by the same 'yardstick'. While some of us might appreciate a sub paragraph of explanation on the technichal aspects of the fuel economy results of the vehicles were considering for purchase, the majority of the buying population would just find it confusing. I'm one of those people who'd love the details, starting with side by side comparisons of the torque curves of the eco-boost on regular and premium fuels. Exciting reading!

I didn't try the front. With the first side I popped it loose at each bracket starting at the rear. With the second side I popped it loose at the rear and just pulled the strip backwards so that it slipped right off of the front and middle bracket. That was the easiest. I discussed my experience here: http://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/10326-after-market-or-ford-roof-rack/ I thought it was easy although I will admit to being quite concerned about goofing something up and damaging my vehicle. I had no idea that the hole was pre-tapped so that was a risk. It seemed like I was the first person on this forum to do it myself so I had no experience to learn from. $400 to install or $400 to purchase and install? I could see you being charged for an hour of labor but not more than that, and that would include the time required for the dealer mechanic to install the cross bars as well. When I was ordering my rails at the parts department the young guy at the counter started looking up each individual part number and was pricing it that way. A more senior guy saw what he was doing and pointed out that ordering the complete kit was a lot cheaper. I never did install the cross bars that came with the kit but might someday I suppose.

How long is your roof basket? How much are you planning on carrying in it? Can you discipline yourself to keep the bulk of your load balanced / centered between those two 21 inch OEM bars? Have you priced the cost of the OEM cross bars? They are probably more expensive then you think. Once you know that cost, the price jump to the Yakima bars may not feel quite as painful. I'm carrying a canoe that only weighs 26 pounds so the weight wasn't my concern. But I did want to spread the stress by the wind drag on the canoe so I opted for a Yakima system that gave me a 32 1/2 inch spread. That 21 inch spread on the OEM bars made me very nervous. As you are driving 75 MPH down the highway in a buffeting wind, how comfortable are you going to feel about the OEM bars? Sometimes spending the extra money is worth the peace of mind. BTW, I purchased my bars from a company called rack attack. They had the best pricing I could find. If you go with the Whispebars, please post pictures and a summary of how they are working out.

The rails themselves have some flex in them if you put enough pressure on them. A little bit of flex in a structure is often better than no flex (rock sold) at all. Until someone posts that they've experienced a failure within the recommended, evenly spaced roof load, I'll feel confident that Ford designed them properly. The 'feet' at each end of the rails are each secured by two bolts that will not come out if they were installed properly. I self installed my rails and I feel confident of that. The outside of each foot is a plastic cover that snaps on. That can give the impression that the foot isn't very strong. The rigidity of the foot can be felt on the backside if you take a closer look. I suppose that there is always the possibility that they weren't torqued down properly during the installation so could always ask to have them checked at your Ford dealership if it would make you feel more comfortable. I carried a canoe on my roof on a couple of long highway trips last summer. The Ford rails along with my Yakima cross bars held up just fine. The black plastic strip covers a gutter. Any water in the gutter should drain out if you are on an incline or once you hit the road and then it blows out. When I did my install I learned to press in on the outside of the strip while pulling up on the inside of the strip, starting at one end. The strip is secured (snaps on) to plastic brackets that are bolted onto your roof. I think that once you have the roof rails on, the strips are much harder to get off and may require the removal of the outer cover on the feet, if not the entire foot structure itself. I wouldn't recommend it.

You might find an interested taker in May or June when peoples minds turn to outdoor activities or summer travel that require a set of roof rails. I purchased them and self installed on my 2012 Edge because I needed to carry a canoe. I can't remember the price off the top of my head but your exchange would be an extremely good deal for someone. If you ever find someone to do this, you will also need to exchange the front and rear roof mounting brackets that are underneath the black trim piece. The brackets that come with your setup have two holes for two mounting bolts. That provides the extra strength needed to secure your loaded roof rails. The mounting brackets that come with the plain strip only have one hole. There is also a middle bracket on each side but that doesn't change. Since you are removing your rails you will end up with an open bolt hole at each corner of your roof that needs to be filled or you are going to end up with a roof leak. I would expect that a clear, all weather sealant such as the type made for a gutter would do the job.

Here is another unscientific observation on my fuel economy. I thought I'd make a longer term comparison of Regular vs. Premium fuel in the winter and here are my results: 1. 19,964 miles to 23,874 miles on Regular fuel yielded an MPG of 25.875 2. 23,874 miles to 26,035 miles on Premium fuel yielded and MPG of 26.36. I have pretty much driven the same routes throughout, and would note that the last two weeks on premium saw lighter (less stop and go) traffic due to people taking winter vacations. That would have yielded improved mileage for a couple of tanks of premium. My conclusion is that the underwhelming .485 MPG improvement I saw is not worth the extra 30 cents a gallon. In my long initial essay in this thread I believe that I noted that I hadn't noticed any difference last winter after running through a tank or two of premium. Now I'm confident of my initial observation. My lifetime average MPG at 26,035 miles now stands at 25.73

Congratulations on your choice. I think you will enjoy your engine choice provide your fuel economy expectations aren't overly optimistic. If I may recommend a change in your wording: "I still can't believe the power that little 4 cyl Turbo puts out!" conveys a more positive image of the performance of the engine. An emoticon such as would even be appropriate.

The Edge Sport is Front Wheel Drive is rated at 19 MPG in the city, and the All Wheel Drive model is rated at 17 MPG in the city. You don't say which of these you have, but at 18 MPG you're right about where you should be. In regards to "best MPG", of the three engine options available for the Edge, you picked the least fuel efficient. The EcoBoost version would have given you better results, although not as sporty. Since you are transitioning from an Accord, your Edge MPG is bound to seem like a shocker no matter which model you had picked. Isn't gas nearly free in Oklahoma? Nobody else is pumping fuel out from under their state capital.