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  6. Nav Map version in SYNC INFO not updated after map update

    in Audio, Backup, Navigation & SYNC

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    7 hours ago, BillE said:

    Are you implying that there might be a problem with my SYNC update?  I was able to notify Ford with the file written to the USB stick at the conclusion of the update. 

     

    They left out the command "delay" as noted in my post.  What this means is that the install package will run until completed,  then the unit will say it is restarting and a brief message pops up saying the update is done and to remove the USB but then it will restart on its own and repeat the installation over and over doing the same thing.  Its an endless loop of installs.  This confuses people.

     

    When the delay command is added it runs once and halts at the remove the usb message.

     

     

  8. Nav Map version in SYNC INFO not updated after map update

    in Audio, Backup, Navigation & SYNC

    Posted

    3 hours ago, BillE said:

    Apparently the latest release of SYNC 3.4.43 is also buggy and has been retracted.  When I try to download it, I get an Oops statement.   If and when  Ford fixes SYNC v3.4.43 and I can download and install, I will answer the question about whether the displayed map version in the SYNC info section was corrected and if was not,  if I can reinstall NA 1-19. 

     

    Apparently there is another way using the IVSU version screen in the diagnostics mode to determine the actual map version being used.  Can anyone explain how to do it?   I  can't be sure that  I successfully updated the maps from NA 1-18 to NA 1-19 using SYNC v3.3 with the map version bug.

     

    If you have a 2019 model year the 3.4.43 is not buggy.  They had issues with some 2020 model year updates missing a file so they took the entire user update off line until they fix it.  If you downloaded it for a 2019 prior to it being taken down you are fine.

  13. Cooled Seats

    in Interior, A.C., Heat, Interior Trim

    Posted · Edited by jmr061

    Okay I stand corrected...the 2020 edge does have cooled seating.  I pulled this from the service manual:

     

    Climate Controlled Seat Operation

    The driver and passenger climate controlled seat buttons are selected from the FCIM. The climate controlled seat system functions independently from the vehicle's climate control system.

    The seat cushion and backrest are each equipped with a blower motor assembly. As cabin air is drawn through each blower motor, a Thermo-Electric Device (TED) heats or cools the air, which is then directed into the foam pad where it is distributed along the surface of the cushion and backrest of the seat. Once the system is activated, the SCME uses a set of flexible algorithms to control the heating/cooling modes and the blower speed dependant on the commanded climate controlled seat settings.

    The SCME monitors seat cushion temperature while it supplies voltage and ground to both blower motors. The SCME also supplies a variable voltage signal to control the blower speed. Cabin air enters the blower through an integrated filter attached to the blower motor housing. Heated or cooled air exits the blower motor and flows through the foam pad.

    Climate Controlled Seat Heating Characteristics

    • In heat mode, the blower motor can add up to 40–60° C (72–108° F) to the ambient inlet air temperature.
    • The system control settings are indicated next to each climate controlled seat heat switch button. The first setting is HIGH (3 indicators), the second setting is MED (2 indicators) and the third is LOW (1 indicator) then OFF (no indicators).
    • When heating, the SCME varies the speed of the blower motors and the duty cycle of the integral Thermo-Electric Device (TED) in order to reach and maintain the desired temperature determined by the system control settings.

    Climate Controlled Seat Cooling Characteristics

    • In cool mode, the blower motors can remove up to 8° C (14° F) from the ambient air temperature entering the system.
    • The system control settings are based on the 3 indicators next to each climate controlled seat cool switch button. The first setting is HIGH (3 indicators), the second setting is MED (2 indicators) and the third is LOW (1 indicator) then OFF (no indicators).
    • When cooling, the SCME maintains a constant blower motor speed and a constant Thermo-Electric Device (TED) supply voltage (duty cycle is determined by the switch setting) in COOL mode.

    Climate Controlled Seat Recovery Mode

    NOTE: The presence of overtemperature faults (Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) B1153:4B, B1154:4B, B1151:4B and B1152:4B) can be induced by incorrectly operating the climate controlled seat system after an initial heat setting has been attained. If a heat setting is repeatedly turned off and on in an attempt to increase the seat temperature or repeatedly toggled between heat and cool modes, an overtemperature condition can result and the Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) may be set.

    If the temperature of one of the blower motors rises above 110° C (229.8° F) in the heat mode or 65° C (148.9° F) in the cool mode for more than 4 seconds, the SCME records an overtemperature DTC, removes voltage from the Thermo-Electric Devices (TEDs) (part of the blower motor assembly) and goes into recovery mode (blower only) for 30 seconds to cool down the blower motor. The same occurs if a temperature difference of 60° C (108° F) or greater is detected between the backrest and cushion blower motors on either front seat. The SCME continues to monitor the blower motors while in recovery mode. If the temperature of the Thermo-Electric Devices (TEDs) do not drop to 105° C (220.8° F) in the heat mode or 60° C (139.9° F) in the cool mode after 30 seconds, the system continues to cool the blower motors in recovery mode for up to 5 minutes. If the Thermo-Electric Devices (TEDs) cool down after 30 seconds, but before 5 minutes (checked at 4 second intervals), the system is operating normally. An overtemperature DTC is still recorded even if the system recovers and is operating normally. This is more likely to occur during extreme cabin temperatures with significant seat back sun load. If the system does not recover within 30 seconds in heat mode or within 5 minutes in cool mode, the SCME disables that seat (fault mode) and remains off until the ignition is cycled. Also, if the SCME detects a temperature differential fault twice during the same ignition cycle, the SCME disables the seat. When a fault causes a shutdown, the climate controlled seat indicators turn off and that seat is not operational until the next ignition cycle.

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  16. Cooled Seats

    in Interior, A.C., Heat, Interior Trim

    Posted

    5 hours ago, Gadgetjq said:


    Checking the 2020 Edge brochure (online) the heated/cooled seats are available as part of the 301A option package on Titanium, the 401A package on Titanium Elite and 401A (pictured) for ST.   Without the packages the Edge gets heated seats only.
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    Thats probably a typo.  The owner's manual states ventilated seats and I believe the service manual does as well.  Ford abandoned cooled seats cause they didn't work well.

  18. Cooled Seats

    in Interior, A.C., Heat, Interior Trim

    Posted

    12 hours ago, omar302 said:

    @tmarsh

    Any update on the cooled seats?

    I have done some research and found that even though the 2019/2020 Edge use the same TEDs (link to bottom & back parts) and same SCME (link to part), the 2019/2020 have extra blocks in the ABD. So there seems to be a software/firmware update for the SCME, I have an old ForScan 2.4.0 version (Jan build) but there is no firmware flash option for the SCME. 

    Maybe someone with a 2019/2020 Edge with cooled seats can get temperature readings for the TEDs and see if they are better.

     

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    Note: The yellow boxes and red text are to highlight the 2018 changes compared to mine.

     

    Aren't the 19 and ups heated and ventilated seats only?  Thought they removed the cooling part meaning it just shoot air through the seat rather than cooling the air when in ventilated mode?

  20. Alarm Sensitivity

    in Alarms, Keyless Entry, Locks & Remote Start

    Posted

    On 5/27/2020 at 11:38 AM, shumax said:

    It’s a stock system - all OEM.  Sounds like there is no way to adjust sensitivity, correct?  May have to go to the dealer and show them...

     

    Ford does have an add on security module that has a shock sensor in it.  No vehicle comes from the factory with it.  It has been added at some point.  It also is part of adding remote start if not equipped from the factory.

     

    You will have to find where the module is mounted and there is knob that turns and adjusts sensitivity.

     

    https://accessories.ford.com/electronics/vehicle-security/electronic-module-12157.html

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  25. LED Signature lights problem

    in Glass, Lenses, Lighting, Mirrors, Sunroof (BAMR), Wipers

    Posted

    15 hours ago, Nascar99 said:

    Thanks! I did check the BJB and the associated fuse, but both are ok. Yes, I don't believe the Signature lights are programmable, but there seems to be a dimming circuit via the BCM. They are dim with the Park lights on. Getting close to pulling wires...Maybe I'm better off calling it a day and painting both Signature lights gloss back!! Lol.

     

    They are wired into the parking lamp circuit for dimming and the splice for that is up front in the parking lamp circuit, not inside so if you parking lamps work the circuit is fine.

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