GT500R

Don't have the Adaptive Cruise control (wish I did ) But good thought.

12's with just a tune, no. 12's with race gas and exhaust, probably. Larger intercooler and W/M injection would probably get it real close to 12's too.

Updated this thread with all tests thus far.

Can't compete with LMS yet, still needs tweaking. LMS advised you can transfer the device for $300 and that person gets 4 tunes (minus the tunes they have already provided) for their car. So it actually isn't too back of a deal with LMS. Only reason to go with a custom tuner like Unleashed is if you start tweaking intake/intercooler/meth injection/ etc.

No, tunes are different, especially with boost, slowly drops on Unleashed and stays constant with LMS. Timing seems to be different also. But like someone else said, Unleashed has a 2.7 Fusion so hopefully that will provide the data to make that tune 100%.

TEST: Altering shift points I have been working with LMS on lowering the shift points to see if anything changes with 0-60. Theory is by 6100+ rpm the turbo's are just pushing hot air and after the trans. shifts it isn't fully utilizing the power band. Request was to lower shift points from LMS.... 1. 0-60 w/1 foot roll out time was not affected in any way with the shorter shifts. 4.85 ave. for short shifts vs. 4.86 ave for long shifts (3 runs each). 2. RPM only change slightly from the long shift.... which was a bit disappointing.... Long shift points were averaged as so - 1st to 2nd gear shift rpm was 6225 2nd to 3rd gear shift rpm was 6350 Short shift points were averaged as so - 1st to 2nd gear shift rpm was 6100 2nd to 3rd gear shift rpm was 6200 the short shift was pretty much spot on from what I got from the stock tune. I assume the tuner just set the settings back to stock instead of adjusting from stock. Some things I noticed with the short shift tune was less wheel hop after the 1st-2nd shift, just as quick acceleration (as stated above), turbo air cooler temps didn't go as high, spark advance was a tad better and cat temps were just a bit lower. My theory is the turbo at 6.2 - 6.4 rpm is really blowing a lot of hot air and out of the efficiency range and helps out slightly with temps. I recon a couple less rpm will help out even more. TEST: Altering shift points v2 LMS further lowered the shift points to 6k exactly. Long story short... Straight 0-60 (not 1 foot roll out) DA = +500 Short Shift V2 1 - 5.12 2 - 5.13 3 - 5.10 Normal Tune 1 - 5.03 2 - 5.07 3 - 5.07 Going to stick with the stock shift point tune for now as I feel it is just as good as the aggressive shift tune. TEST: VBOX vs. LIVELINK 0-60 I see a lot of folks using the livelink data logs to show 0-60. Since I have both livelink and VBOX (https://www.vboxmotorsport.co.uk/index.php/us/) I figured it would be a good idea to compare the two and see how accurate the live link truly is to the Vbox. I took a couple of tests done on different days ensuring I had both the Vbox AND the livelink running during the same time. All runs are 0-60 (not 1 foot roll out) and are on a level ground. DA is anywhere from +100 to +500. Clearly the live link is very very close to the Vbox, being only hundredths of a second difference. While the live link is pretttty close, the other things to consider is the grade (uphill vs. downhill) and distance. So the Vbox can show the grade and sometimes you think the road is level, but it sometimes might not be.. also the Vbox can show distance measures (1/8 mile and 1/4 mile which is super accurate vs. the track - see above test). Overall, use the live link to show 0-60, its is pretty damn accurate. TEST: Actual Track Time v2 (right car) Decided to get around 10 runs in at the track, majority being 13.4xx range and squeezed out two 13.3xx with this one being the fastest!!!! WOOP WOOP TEST: Unleashed Tuning Rev 5 Unleashed had a chance to work on the 2.7 more closely and really straightened out the tune on what it was before. I believe I was one of the few that received this rev. and decided to provide more and more data logging to get it to be as fast as possible. After 5 revisions I felt like I should do a quick litmus test and see how quick the SUV was. I knew it was going to be fast, and sure enough each run got faster and faster. I need to work straighten out the wheel hop during the 1-2 shift. Not sure if the trans. pressure needs to increase or decrease to help..... TEST: LMS 100 Octane Tune Whoops forgot about this thread.... April was racing with 100 octane and was able to pull off a 13.1x@104.xx TEST: Unleashed 93 Octane Tune / 100 Octane Tune Tested out the 93 and 100 octane tunes (100 wasn't much faster and sent logs to Torrie to figure out if something needs to be changed). Slips below! TEST: Unleashed Tuning E30 Tune Track day extravaganza!! Unleashed vs LMS I am going to try and keep this post as short as possible, but Leo and I decided to hit the track up for the last time of the season. Leo Edge Mods - 4460 lbs - Springs - Thermostat - Race can gas - LMS V3 Tune (93 and 100) Chris (me) Edge Mods - 4460 lbs - Trans Mount - Intercooler - E30 - Unleashed V3 E30 Tune Both set ups have winter tires. Since Leo forgot not one but both helmets at home I decided to let my car cool off and run Leo's car on the 93 tune - 13.24(?)@104.x. Almost beating the straight 93 octane 1/4 mile record time by me. We then got a rental helmet and went head to head 4 times. Averages for the 4 runs: LMS - 13.150 @ 105.11 Unleashed - 13.037 @ 106.44 Leo unfortunately went 0-4 in the fastest time contest but if we were bracket racing went 2-2. All Unleashed runs - 13.015@106.48 13.011@106.29 12.999@106.51 13.033@106.13 13.077@106.73 13.039@106.40 I would say pretty damn consistent, if I could get my 60' down in the 1.8 range, this would be 12.8x or low 12.9 all day. Not bad for an intercooler 5% bigger then stock and a tune for power adders. TEST: Unleashed 93 Octane Tune / 100 Octane Tune Tested out the 93 and 100 octane tunes (100 wasn't much faster and sent logs to Torrie to figure out if something needs to be changed). Slips below!

TEST: 93 off the shelf tune vs. the "91 aggressive tune" (93 aggressive tune also available). "The transmission tune has firmer shifting and an overall more aggressive shift strategy which is the primary changes to the tune. The 93 tune would still have more timing advance because of the higher octane." - LMS Impressions of the 91 agr. tune: the shifting is actually better then the current offering of tunes! Shifting is very quick (almost like my DSG VW, but not quite) and CRISP, there is no clunking, banging, etc. from the shift strategy on this tune - which the other 93 tune doesn't really clunk, but I feel like it sometimes bangs into the next gear on full throttle and I feel it can be a bit smoother. Normal "D" is very nice with the shifts also, crisp and clean. I think there is a bit more aggressive tuning (timing) in this tune based on the canned tune but I am not 100% certain. Either way I ran three times and had very similar results each run. It seems that this tune is just a SMIDGE slower then the 93 can tune (pretty cool). I now want the shift strategy on my 93 tune! DA was pretty much same for all runs for both tunes (-2200 DA) I am not sure if I should keep posting these threads or should just create one big VBOX thread to sticky or keep updating? Do you guys mind these many updates? Thanks. TEST: Actual Track Time Anyway.... decided to take my car to the track. 2015 Edge Sport (CAR 8909) 10,xxx miles LMS 93 Octane Tune K&N Filter Stock Wheels (no more winter set up) What is super interesting is comparing this to Corey's run - Legit almost a dead even race the whole way... TEST: Modified Stock Grille To Increase Air To Intercooler. QUESTION: Will removing panels on the stock lower grille decrease air temp to the engine and help performance? Conditions: Summer night, +600 DA | 68* 93 LMS Tune K&N panel filter Test procedure: let off brake then mash gas to keep out other variables about launch rpm etc. 0-60 was measured with 1 foot roll out. Modifying the stock grille to remove panels and increase air flow to the intercooler. Blue tape was used for testing the stock style grille. Results: No actual change 0-60 (ran with a 1 foot roll out - no launch for consistency) nor temperature changes with intake temp. Three runs were made with each grille type back to back trying to get start temp close before the next run. First run examples of how temperature vs. mph is plotted on a graph shown below. Was hoping to see maybe area under the curve better for the modified grille, nope. Conclusion: if you want your grille to look more aesthetically correct, this is a good mod, looking to gain performance, probably not going to happen.

TEST: 93 off the shelf tune vs. RPM launch Specs - 2015 Edge Sport Livernois 93 Tune Winter Wheel Set Up Miles = 4300 1/4 tank of 93 octane 48* F All tests done with traction control off and Sport Mode. I used my old school Scan Gauge (like 2004 era...) to understand RPM when launching. Also note that all runs done on a private road - not a track. Took a couple videos of the scan gauge to see IAT change over the run. To be honest, it didn't go up at all during 0-60, it actually went down on the runs interestingly enough.... Test Notes - Runs were performed in the order above, car is extremely consistent (last 3 runs were estimated RPM) - 1500 RPM is not as great where it used to be pretty decent with the stock tune - 2000 RPM is the sweet spot (maybe 2200?) - 2300 RPM spun ALL FOUR TIRES and it showed.... I assume with a better street set up that I would grab a really good 0-60. - Best 1/8 mile time (only one of them was 8.7 @ 81 mph - last run of the night) - The one 91 Octane Tune I had was 5.408 - The best 93 Stock Tune I had was 5.976 - The 1 foot roll out average is 4.9 (what magazines use to test), best of 4.8! This tune took off .806 seconds off my best 0-60 and I must say I am impressed, I can't wait to see what downpipes / intercooler pipes / intake does (maybe 0-60 in 4.8?). Thanks Livernois Motorsports, can't wait to see how the car performs when you tweak the tune later on down the road! TEST: 93 off the shelf tune w/colder weather 7650 miles 93 LMS tune K&N Filter Sport Mode DA: -2200 feet (he he he) (data directly from vBox Tools website - new best on the 0-60!!!) Oh and a bonus for those who wanted to see a 0-60 video and watch the lag after 2nd gear (damn 60-70 lag) here it is! Thanks guys!

Since I realized I have a lot of threads in this forum around 0-60 and different tests, I figure I am going to keep them all in one thread to make things nice and neat. This thread will be a good repository to show people performance I measure through VBOX and track for not only Stock tuned vehicles, but different tuners also - LMS, Unleashed, etc. TEST: Stock tune - Drive vs. Sport Hey guys, So now that my car is broken in a bit more I am starting to perform some testing to see how my 0-60 changes with different driving methods. Today's test is a stock test measuring 0-60 between Drive and Sport mode in the transmission. I did something similar with my GLi (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?7243386-VBOX-Times-VS-Tune-gt-APR-Tune) and would like to do the same for this car. So here we go.... One run each transmission mode in a straight away with almost same starting point. You will notice a negative slope, which is less than a half of a percent... so that means I started at an elevation of 187.8 ft and when the run was over was at 186.5 ft (essentially negligible). Brake boost was 1000 rpm for each run, 93 octane, and legit 0-60 (not a 1 foot roll out) Questions or comments welcome! One fun fact was the SPORT mode run had a 0-60 with 1 foot roll out of 5.672 seconds! I am thinking next test should be best brake boost point? 1000 rpm vs. 1500 rpm vs 2000 rpm, thoughts? TEST: Stock tune vs. RPM Launch Specs - 2015 Edge Sport 100% stock with 2800 miles on the clock Rune performed in SPORT with 1/2 tank of 93 octane I didn't catch the exact DA, but was around 55* and close to sea level. First run was in Drive just a a warm up, then two runs were made there after in each direction and valid best runs were taken to compare Results below - Now if you are like me, you said.... wait how did the lowest RPM get the fastest? And I thought the same... so I dug into the graphs and what I remember feeling when launching. I remember 1500 wasn't as bad as 2000 rpm in terms of smoothness when I let go of the brakes. It's like the car jumped for a split second, had to catch up and then go. 1000 rpm was just smooth, no catching up, no small bog... So I checked the graphs (on the right side of the pic above). And as you can see, the green line (Lateral G's) goes to the first high point quicker in the 1000 rpm graphs (the line is the same size to compare them across) then the other two runs... interesting... So conclusion is 1000 rpm is the best launch point for a 2015 Edge Sport based on the data I have. Questions, comments, etc. welcome. Now I am thinking the next test can be a 87 octane vs. 93 octane. Or a tune if Livernois ever releases it!!! :P TEST: 93 off the shelf tune w/ and w/o K&N Filter So after dave80 told me K&N Filters for the car are on sale during Black Friday ($37 plus $10 rebate), I decided to get one and see if there is any difference in performance. Testing was done from 30-60 and 40-80 very most consistent results since I most likely couldn't do the same exact launch every single time for 0-60. (Plus there was a small amount of moisture on the road) Le Filter -> Le Testing results -> Test Notes: - Can't really feel any difference by the seat of my pants (didn't expect to) - MPG seem to be up slightly (yay) - Seems that it does make the car slightly quicker - Based on testing, the filter is good for a tenth or so in the 1/4 mile or longer roll runs. - Based on 40-80, it seems that the K&N car is 10 feet in front at 80 mph which is roughly 1/2 car, not bad. Will most likely retest a 0-60 to see if there is any difference when it dries up a bit. Thanks guys.

So far I have had 6 or 7 revisions. I would log, send a file then get one back in <12 hours (cool!). Only problem is they are small changes and nothing monumental (understandable). Problem is I asked for a new one as the last put me in limp mode and now I am waiting for a newer version (was told working on this internally). So.... The unleashed tune is good, but not LMS good yet. I think there is a lot lot left to tune and that is why he is working on it internally. 0-60 is around 5.6 right now which isn't bad but when you can get 5.0 or better it's not the best. It's funny as the guys on the FB group are like this is amazing so much power and yeah stock to unleashed is good but unleashed to LMS right now is the same jump from stock to unleashed. So imagine doubling your reaction from stock to LMS. Hopefully I can get a really far revision and do a good test but I think that is months out...

I am running 20" rims. The difference between them and 21" is about 6 lbs so rims won't really affect the 1/4 mile as much as you would think. I actually am doing some side by side comparison with LMS and Unleashed tunes to see the difference between the two... Yes I bought two tuners from two different companies.

I agree IAT's get hot when you are up in the higher gears. I am working on some aesthetics to fix this hopefully Too bad you didn't get any better runs in, air must have sucked. I went back after my 13.4 run and ran 13.7 and 13.6 @100 and the air sucked then too. Get the car back to LMS for some revisions

Hello, I have for sale an SCT X3 tuner - unmarried with 5 unlocks left (you just need to buy a tune from unleashed or any other supporting SCT tuners). Looking to get $150 shipped anywhere in the US. Comes with USB cord to data log etc. Est. gains for V6 N/A Edge are 20-30 hp with improved shifting! I accept PayPal. Thanks.

I don't know how many 0-60 runs I have logged but it is a lot. Look for all threads started by me and you'll see stock / D vs S / varying rpm launch / etc etc Here is a tuned 0-100

Hey Bamm, Yes it was the aggressive tune.

Correct, just a tune and filter and ran 13.478

1st run was around 2K 2nd run was around 2300 rpm or so, cut that 60 foot down

Hey guys, have been more on the Facebook group lately after the fordedgeforum redesign (I wasn't sure where to post so I just stopped....) Anyway.... decided to take my car to the track. 2015 Edge Sport (CAR 8909) 10,xxx miles LMS 93 Octane Tune K&N Filter Stock Wheels (no more winter set up) What is super interesting is comparing this to Corey's run - Legit almost a dead even race the whole way...

1. Not once 2. New tune with aggressive shift doesn't occur (check out my youtube video -> )3. They didn't adjust mine, but who knows how much they really would adjust just for a filter.

I have the same issue where it is grayed out and cannot adjust the top two settings. Next trip to dealer will be asking about this.

Now you understand why I do it! No hesitation indeed. Once it stops snowing hear I am going to get another test in for the 93 aggressive tune/shift and post it up.

Are you getting badging or decal for the "twin turbo"? I was looking into a 3"'X13" decal on the bottom side but am not sure on the color....

I was considering getting Brembo calipers (4 piston) that would be similar on the GT500, but couldn't get a definitive answer if the calipers would fit or not. So sticking with stock for now. Weird how you didn't even get the punch off the line considering you have the AWD, but then I saw you didn't stall it before launching ; ) Not too bad.

Based on the dyno - car being barely broken in and having a loop at 3500 rpm makes me wonder if it was a good run. I doubt that drivetrain loss is almost 30%. The SHO cars don't even peak with that much power with a tune and higher displacement. If that were true I would be seeing 4.5 0-60 with that much power and be happy with the speed, as of now with the tune it's where the car should have been sold off the factory floor (haha)

I don't trust the dyno numbers, that's cool for showing off and talking a big game but what it comes down to is how fast your car is on the street, I also wouldn't go off of the only dyno shown either as a variety of factors can influence the numbers.