Mark Fleming Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I have a 2008 Ford Edge Limited with 106,000 miles on it. Last Friday I was driving home from work. It all of a sudden started to hesitate. No bang no nothing. I felt a power lose. But was still able to drive to pickup my daughter a exit down the highway. The car started after I picked her up and was fine for about a mile then died in the middle of the road. The car turns over but does not start. There is no fluids leaking or anything. But when you turn over car you can smell gas. I had it towed to a ford dealer. They charged me $100.00 and checked the camshaft sensor. They said sensor was working properly. Then they told me I need to pay another $300.00 to have the engine opened up. They had a cylinder reading low compression. I still have not got a call back. But I am sure they are busy. My gut is telling me I am going to get a call that the motor is junk. But if that was the case I would think the fluid would have leaked out and the engine would have seized. Has anyone else had this problem? I not about to drop a $5-$6k on a engine then a month later go back for a new tranny then go back for sensors. I have read a couple of threads like this and Ford has had to send Mechanics reps out to figure out the problem. Would there be a way I could contact a Corp Rep from Ford to double check diagnosis? I think it's got to be some sort of sensor in this SUV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 FordService is our rep on here, you can contact directly for assistance. Need 5 posts on the forum to PM, use the TEST FORUM for that. If you smell gas, you could have leaky injector(s) and or clogged cat(s). Flooding of some kind? Or maybe the ignition isn't working (plugs/coils). Maybe even the PCM. Did the dealership run codes? Did you try to start with the gas pedal to the floor (to cut off fuel flow)? What is the maintenance history? Coolant loss? Spark plugs changed? Battery checked/changed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Fleming Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Everything was up to par with maintenance. I did put the pedal to the floor when I was trying to restart it when it broke down. That's when I got that smell. I just had put gas in the day before. They told me they checked the crank sensor and that was working. Also they had run the codes. But then mentioned low compression. Honestly I really don't believe they know what the problem is. It's been there for 2 days now. I have a feeling I will get a call in the morning to tell me motor is bad when it isn't. Does Ford have a local master mechanic that can consult on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Fleming Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 No leaks nothing. Plugs are good. New Battery through AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Fleming Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 It was really strange. I was driving on the highway and started to spudder. I think It has to do with something with a sensor or the computer. Because it seems like the timing is off or the computer timing is off. The mechanic said the chain might have jumped. But I doubt that highly. I've never heard of that. Even at the drag strip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Fleming Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 No I do not drag the Ford Edge. lol. I have a mustang I built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 No, usually the dealership requests a Ford Engineer to come onsite to look over the issue(s). You can certainly ask the dealership to put in such a request. Since you probably are out of warranty, IDK what your OOP costs would be ... Does Ford have a local master mechanic that can consult on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Fleming Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I just got off the phone with them. They are tearing the engine apart right now. I really don't think they know what they are doing. I asked about the codes and PCM and he paused and said yes. So a little nervous. Is there a number I can call? I just don't want to piss them off and start charging me storage if I ask for a consult from ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Fleming Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I also think the when running codes if the computer is not sending the right codes to the engine why would it send the right codes to another computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Fleming Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 My thought is if I am paying thousands of dollars to fix it. I want ford to guarantee the work and it is that exact problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Send a PM to FordService with your contact, vehicle & dealership details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Fleming Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Awesome will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Hmmm.... Just filled up the tank yesterday? Could be bad gas. Make sure they check for that. Low compression on one cylinder would not cause it to stop running and not crank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbwt Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) Personnally I do not authorize mechs to tear into a motor if they do not tell me the issues/codes and other information. If you have to tear into a motor to look that it this amounts to wasted hours and money. There are plenty of ways to determine if the engine is viable or not. Oil analysis is only 25 bucks and tells a lot. scopes can look into the engine at many points. I have determined that if I feel the engine has failed I would just order a used one for 800 bucks and pay the 1500-2000 dollars to have it installed. Cheaper than paying dealer to tear down then rebuild a motor. Check this out: http://www.automotix.net/usedengines/2008-ford-edge-inventory.html?fit_notes=c1dcfa0ae7f55c00566749ed43030a28&seq_num=3 Edited March 26, 2015 by macbwt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Fleming Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 They called and told me all the sensors checked out. So they needed another $300.00 to diagnosis the problem. We are on day 3 still no answer on the car. Come to find out they are tearing the motor apart. Personally with all the electronics in this thing. I don't believe they are going to be able to put this thing back together. I know they are not going to be able to figure this out. So they will call and tell me the motor is bad. Just so they don't have to deal with it. Would I be out of line. When they call me and tell me the motor is bad. To actually have them show me in person the damage. I would have pulled the oil pan and checked the oil first for metal. Also the car turns over so it's not seized. But that's just me. To me it's something computer related. My bet it some sensors went bad tell the motor the wrong compression to those cylinders. Or engine CPU failed and is telling the engine the wrong info. I can tell you this if they ask for more money they are not getting it with out the problem being diagnosed and I'm not buying the motor is bad. I did PM FordService yesterday. So I hope he will message me back today. Cause I know I'm gonna get a call that the motor is bad. I've worked on cars for years and I just don't see a timing chain jumping on a daily driver and damaging the pistons and heads. That seems to be a slim to non chance. When I heard that for a possible reason I almost laughed. So come on FordService we need you advice on this. Thanks for everyone in the forum for your help btw. You guys are great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Well it could be the timing chain but I agree that's not likely since it stalled, then ran ok for a bit before quitting for good. I still say it could be bad gas. Check with the station where you filled up and see if they've had other complaints. You should not only expect but DEMAND them to show you any damage or failed components. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Fleming Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Turns out it was a bad coil sprak plug & PCM. So pretty much what it figured it would be. So thank god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 So how much have you committed to in "installment" payments so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Turns out it was a bad coil sprak plug & PCM. So pretty much what it figured it would be. So thank god. Please tell me they didn't actually pull the head for that diagnosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Well, the key to a good diagnosis of a topend problem is always to look at the main bearings first Please tell me they didn't actually pull the head for that diagnosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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