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Metroplex

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  1. Metroplex

    Track Time Results

    Ok. That's not too bad then. That's 4 shifts to the 1/4 mile line, but that 2-3 is way too short. If you skip from 2 to 4, then it'll be bogging for a bit. Not the ideal setup. The 10R60 was set up a bit better as you could skip about 2 gears without dipping below the powerband if you can somehow program it to skip those gears at WOT.
  2. I was considering a new 2020 or 2021 Edge ST, but seeing how much of it is the same as the earlier Edge Sport, I was wondering if Sport owners could chime in: Does the Edge Sport have a PTU cooler? You can tell if there are 2 cooling hoses going towards the bottom of the PTU (by the drain plug area). Someone told me their Edge Sport did not have one. Ford apparently installed these on the MKZ/Fusion with 2.7/3.0 Does the Edge Sport have an aux trans cooler that is oil-to-air (like a radiator behind the grille)? I know there is an oil-to-water exchanger on top of the trans that is used to help warm up the ATF and to regulate the ATF temperature using coolant. That's why the ATF temperatures are never much cooler than your engine coolant temperatures. My Fusion Sport has a trans cooler under the left fog light as well as the cooling block on top of the trans. I'm pretty sure the Edge Sport doesn't have an engine oil cooler (would sit next to the oil filter cap) as I've only seen them on the truck 2.7 engines, but I thought I'd ask anyhow. Thanks in advance
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    Track Time Results

    I've seen onboard videos of the 2020 Explorer ST run and I didn't hear any skipping, some of those gears are so short that it is just wasting time with the shifts. I mapped out the output shaft speeds and engine RPMs for the ST's 3.0 and there are 2 or 3 gears that can be totally skipped and still keep you in the powerband for the 2.7/3.0 The 8-speed is just the new "Ford"/GM 9-speed but Ford took out a gear to make 8 (so 6-speed with 2 extra gears instead of 3 like on the Traverse), claiming they can get the same MPGs as the 9 speed without the extra gear. GM claims the 9 speed gearbox allows for a smoother driving experience. Those are nice 1/4 mile runs and 60' times! The Explorer ST's with just a tune are in the 12.0x range, and the stock turbos can flow massive amounts of air.
  4. Metroplex

    2016 Edge sport 2.7l oil leak

    2019 Fusion Sports (same engine as the Edge Sport) still have issues with oil pan leaks. I haven't been able to hear back from any 2020 Explorer ST owners with the 3.0 on whether Ford re-designed that pan, or 2020-up Edge ST owners.
  5. I'm considering a 2020 or 2021 Edge ST once Ford's factories fire up later this year. Was curious if there are any common issues or known issues with the latest Edge ST's. I'm still reading about oil pan leaks on the 2.7 with 2019 Fusion Sports, but I heard rumors Ford revised the pan design on 2020-up 2.7s to solve the leak issues. Are there any leaks with the 2.7, 8-speed, or the PTU/RDUs? Does the Edge sport/ST have a PTU cooler? You can tell if there are 2 cooling hoses going towards the bottom of the PTU (by the drain plug area). Someone told me their Edge Sport did not have one. Ford apparently installed these on the MKZ/Fusion with 2.7/3.0 Does the Edge ST have an aux trans cooler that is oil-to-air (like a radiator behind the grille)? I know there is an oil-to-water exchanger on top of the trans that is used to help warm up the ATF and to regulate the ATF temperature using coolant. That's why the ATF temperatures are never much cooler than your engine coolant temperatures. My Fusion Sport has a trans cooler under the left fog light as well as the cooling block on top of the trans. I'm pretty sure the Edge ST doesn't have an engine oil cooler (would sit next to the oil filter cap) as I've only seen them on the truck 2.7 engines, but I thought I'd ask anyhow. How are the LED headlights? IIHS testing shows they should be fairly good. my Fusion Sport has all-LED headlights/foglights but I find they don't project far enough so I can't see potholes in wet weather at night until the last possible moment... then the 235/40R19 thin tires tend to pop in potholes. My 2018 Explorer LED lowbeams are very good, I can see the road just fine even in the dark with rain/slush but the thick 245/60R18 tires go through potholes like they aren't there. I watched the Savage Geese reviews primarily for the underbody shots, and am impressed Ford used all aluminum control arms with aluminum knuckles for the Edge Sport/ST and Fusion Sport. They didn't do this on the Explorer ST. I need something that can handle Michigan road salt in the winter.
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    For Those that have Tuned The Edge ST

    I have tuned my 2017 Fusion Sport, and the PCM/TCM is 99.999% the same as the Edge Sport/ST because they are the same engine and transmission. You guys just have about 400 lb more weight than the Fusion. I can get 28 mpg highway, but average about 22-23 mpg in normal driving. The transmission in my 17 Fusion Sport doesn't shift as well as the 6F55 in my 2014 SHO. All I did with the SHO was slightly increase line pressure and slightly increase torque limits during shifting. It felt fine. My 17 Sport came from the factory with a horrible delay in the 1-2 and 2-3. I ran it at the track 2 years ago with an initial early tune of mine and ran 12.7 @ 108. I've greatly improved the tune but haven't had a chance to run it. I found quickly the 2.7 lacks a lot of low end torque. My SHO was producing 100+ ft-lb more torque at 2700-3000 RPM than the Fusion Sport, and the 2.7 makes the most torque during launch at about 4000+ RPM. So you need to powerbrake the snot out of the engine to avoid bogging. My 60' was 1.8x same as the SHO, but the SHO just launched harder and faster, even though it was a 200 lb heavier vehicle. The 3.5 is just a better engine. My transmission is always covered in a thin coat of ATF, and my oil pan is seeping at the front right corner. About 2 summers ago, the entire right underbody of the car from the front to the exhaust tips was covered in oil that dripped all over the place. It wasn't ATF, didn't smell like gear oil, and felt almost like engine oil or tar. My oil levels seemed fine so I never figured out what it was. BTW - back to the OP's post... I used Ford IDS and FJDS to check for any updates to the PCM and TCM last summer, and didn't find one other than an update for the PCM. I ran that update on my dad's 2017 Fusion Sport then did a comparison with my PCM - Ford only changed 1 table that I could access (O2 sensor tip temperature) and nothing else.
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    Water Pump Failure Prevention

    Just thought I'd chime in: The Taurus/Explorer D3/D4 platform has a subframe that sits right next to where the external water pump would fit, so the 3.5 wouldn't be able to have an external water pump due to clearance problems. At lease this is what I observed on my 2018 Explorer and my 2014 SHO. On the Edge, I'm sure it was the same issue but maybe not. On my Fusion Sport, the 2.7L EcoBoost fits into the car and has an external water pump but the 2.7/3.0 is an entirely different engine (with its own leaky oil pan issues). The Fusion Sport PTU has a drain plug and a fill plug, and has coolant running into a PTU cooler. I've heard Police departments having to replace the water pumps on their 3.5/3.7 Interceptors every 50k miles. I seriously doubt their coolant got too acidic in that short amount of time. Their engine oil usually gets changed every 5k miles.
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    EDU: Changing Oil in 2.7L Sport

    I just got a 2017 fusion Sport which has the same engine. Automakers originally used these cartridge oil filters way back in the day. GM switched to these for their Ecotec engines in the early 2000s and I believe VW Audi used them earlier as well. Ford just recently switched over. It's a lot cleaner, but not less expensive. AC Delco PF457G is like 9 bux at Walmart and it is just a cartridge without o rings. FL500s is half that price and has the metal canister, adbv, etc...
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