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My new subwoofer setup. I just added this 12" low profile pioneer and its running on a Rockford Fosgate p500.1bd amp. The original subwoofer location still has the 10" pioneer low profile sub running a RF 400.1 amp. I'm still working out the crossover points between the two subs. Anyway, if you feel like it then please let me know what you guys think. Sorry about the lighting in the pics. We took them at night without much light in the garage. Thanks.

 

The first pic is the rear escort ZR4 laser shifter. I think the tech took the easy way out on the install by not putting the rear shifter on the license plate. That would have required running the wire through the rubber tube that protects all the wire going into the hatch. I hear folks with the laser shifters rarely if ever get hit by laser from the rear. Il add some pics of the front install soon.

 

 

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It sounds great. I have them crossed over at different points so they work well together. The 10" sub plays the higher and mid bass from about 60 to 150Hz and I have the 12" cutoff to play 60hz and below. They seem to mesh well. The good thing is that with the crossovers done correctly the subs do not cancel each other out at all.

 

I see yo u have a couple of 12s in your Edge. How did you amp them up and where did you put them?

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How did you amp them up and where did you put them?

sorry for lagging on the response but I missed your reply. I have a conventional carpeted box w 2 Sony Xplodes 12s The 1st week I removed the stock 8in sub & hooked the stock sub amp to the box, It pushed the woofers but barely. This past week I removed the stock enclosure & amp & connected my Boss sun amp to the wires originally attached to the stock one. I couldnt get remote-out to work so I split the constant wire & put a toggle switch on the remote-in. This is a temp fix until I have time to run the remote wire up to the fuse box, which is hopefully this weekend.

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There's no way a 10" and a 12" sub sound good together at all. It's a well known fact that they won't fire with the same phase. Even running two different amps they are out of phase. I would buy a better 10" sub for your stock location and run the 500.1 on it, you will appreciate it better the day you do. I ran the stealth box in my edge, but switched the W3 out for a W6 and its running on the JL 900/5 amp which gives 500 watts to the sub. It's still underpowered but it will definitely sound better than a 10" and 12" combo.

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I now have the 10" sub on a 500.1 running much higher stuff and the two 12"s are running off a 700.1. It took listening for quite a bit of time and a good bit of tweaking on the 360 to get it sounding the way I want it to sound. The 10 is being used as a medium low to low-mid driver and it gets along just fine with the 12s. I can easily cut it off and when I do there is an audible hole, for my listening choices anyhow. I'm very happy with the things I can do with the whole system using the 360 and the brilliant software it runs. Thanks for the advise but I believe ill leave it as we have it for now.

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Brock, I've been an MECP certified master installer for 14 years.

 

I've seen/heard his setup. He has them in separate enclosures with separate airspace. The 10 is crossed over at mid bass frequencies and the 12s are just for lows. Learn humility. You're not trying to help. Stop regurgitating JL fanboy bullshit. K, thanks, bye.

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Brock, I've been an MECP certified master installer for 14 years.

I've seen/heard his setup. He has them in separate enclosures with separate airspace. The 10 is crossed over at mid bass frequencies and the 12s are just for lows. Learn humility. You're not trying to help. Stop regurgitating JL fanboy bullshit. K, thanks, bye.

no one is regurgitating anything, if you are a certified "master installer" then you would know his setup is wrong no matter what you do to it and it is out of phase. Also the Edge is JL Audio due to the Stealthbox and my buddy owning a shop so I got the stuff at wholesale. My 2003 Cobra is all Alpine and my 2103 SHO will be something different all together. So take that fanboy crap and shove it were the sun doesn't shine. I wouldn't take any audio advice from you let alone let you install something in my car, just from you saying a 10 that fits in the stock location will hit lower than a 12". Like I said the only avaliable 10" capable of hitting those lows is the JL W6, that's not fanboy crap that's the truth, I can't help it if you don't know your subs or your stuff ok "master installer" bye.
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Wow. Literacy isn't your strong point, huh? "Phase" just means that the speakers would make opposing waves that cancel each other out. That happens with two or more speakers playing the same frequencies with one or more having its polarity reversed. His don't play the same frequencies. Argument invalid.

 

Second, read again. Neither he nor I ever said that the 10 plays lower frequencies. We both actually said quite the opposite. Again, argument invalid.

 

Did your daddy not hug you enough?

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Dingo you're special, and you did say it plays the lower frequencies. Also yes they would be out of phase, which is not the same as polarity. If it was it wou,d be called polarity. Phase means all the speakers will fire at the same time with no delay from speaker to speaker. It is I possible for all three of those subs to fire in phase because they are running off of two different amps. This wouldn't be a problem if they weren't all subs. Say one amp running subs and one running highs or mids. But since there are two different amps running two different sized subs then yes they will not fire in phase. Also I can see where your maturatiy level is because you have to try and insult me and my father, which you have failed miserably at. Keep this thread on topic and stop trying to bring my family and hurling insults at me. I didn't insult you, yet you feel the need to stoop to that level to try and make yourself look better. Oh and I forgot to add when you called me a fanboy yet you know nothing of my other systems or past systems and what companies are involved. You are wrong about the entire thing running 10"s and 12"s together. You might think it sounds good, but my neighbor thinks he's a good driver and he totaled 3 cars last year.

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Dingo you're special, and you did say it plays the lower frequencies. Also yes they would be out of phase, which is not the same as polarity. If it was it wou,d be called polarity. Phase means all the speakers will fire at the same time with no delay from speaker to speaker. It is I possible for all three of those subs to fire in phase because they are running off of two different amps. This wouldn't be a problem if they weren't all subs. Say one amp running subs and one running highs or mids. But since there are two different amps running two different sized subs then yes they will not fire in phase. Also I can see where your maturatiy level is because you have to try and insult me and my father, which you have failed miserably at. Keep this thread on topic and stop trying to bring my family and hurling insults at me. I didn't insult you, yet you feel the need to stoop to that level to try and make yourself look better. Oh and I forgot to add when you called me a fanboy yet you know nothing of my other systems or past systems and what companies are involved. You are wrong about the entire thing running 10"s and 12"s together. You might think it sounds good, but my neighbor thinks he's a good driver and he totaled 3 cars last year.

 

How about you stop telling people what they should buy and what their system sounds like and what sounds good or not.

Especially when Dingo is right about polarity and phase and you've never heard CDPratt's setup.

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