normcloutier Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 Has anyone installed a kit into a 2013 yet? I believe the projectors are the same as the 12 but was curious if there were any issues with the install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 There are various threads on this. The quality of DDM's stuff has been hit or miss lately and YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normcloutier Posted September 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 I am looking for info from any Canadian edge owners who have converted to HID (DDM or others). In Canada, headlights are used for DRL's. They usually run at a slightly lower output/voltage during the day. I can see it on my 13 SEL when I manually turn the light switch from auto to on. The lights are slightly brighter in the on position. At night, the auto and on are the same brightness. I am wondering if this would cause a problem firing the HID's with the reduced voltage. I guess using a harness with relays would be the other option if the voltage was too low. The relays should still operate slightly below 12 volts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 I am looking for info from any Canadian edge owners who have converted to HID (DDM or others). In Canada, headlights are used for DRL's. They usually run at a slightly lower output/voltage during the day. I can see it on my 13 SEL when I manually turn the light switch from auto to on. The lights are slightly brighter in the on position. At night, the auto and on are the same brightness. I am wondering if this would cause a problem firing the HID's with the reduced voltage. I guess using a harness with relays would be the other option if the voltage was too low. The relays should still operate slightly below 12 volts. I am not Canadian but my Edge has the exact issue where the headlights are used for DRLs. This is exactly what I used for my setup: 5K 9006/9012 HID Kit with Canbus Ballasts: http://shop.3bspecialties.com/3BSpec-9006-Xenon-HID-Kit-5000k-HID-9006-5k.htm Warning Cancelers: http://shop.3bspecialties.com/3BSpec-Warning-Canceler-Modules-HID-WarningModule.htm DRL Module: http://shop.3bspecialties.com/DRL-Modules-HID-DRLmodule.htm Works perfectly fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71Dragtruck Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Hey Prinzll, I've read through all the HID conversion threads I could find on here and you seem to be the only person that knows and understands what DRL's are and doesn't skip over the question or add confusion when someone speaks of them LOL. Anyway, I just want to be clear about a couple things before I order a kit. I'm in Canada and we just bought a 2013 Edge Sport for the wife, and kinda disappointed HID's were not an option, she drives a lot at night and I know how much I love them on my Escalade, so I'm looking into doing a retrofit kit on it right away as it has the projectors so should be an easy task. Now with the parts you mentioned do the DRL's still operate? I don't want to disable them, I still want them to operate normally with the HID bulbs as they did with the halogen bulbs. I'm not interested in buying junk, I would have gladly paid the $600 for the option to have them from the factory so want a kit that will last and not give problems, so I want to do it right with good parts straight off. I'm looking at the 35w 4300k kit with the canbus ballast, warning canceller option, along with PNP DRL harness, will this get me what I want and need? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Hey Prinzll, I've read through all the HID conversion threads I could find on here and you seem to be the only person that knows and understands what DRL's are and doesn't skip over the question or add confusion when someone speaks of them LOL. Anyway, I just want to be clear about a couple things before I order a kit. I'm in Canada and we just bought a 2013 Edge Sport for the wife, and kinda disappointed HID's were not an option, she drives a lot at night and I know how much I love them on my Escalade, so I'm looking into doing a retrofit kit on it right away as it has the projectors so should be an easy task. Now with the parts you mentioned do the DRL's still operate? I don't want to disable them, I still want them to operate normally with the HID bulbs as they did with the halogen bulbs. I'm not interested in buying junk, I would have gladly paid the $600 for the option to have them from the factory so want a kit that will last and not give problems, so I want to do it right with good parts straight off. I'm looking at the 35w 4300k kit with the canbus ballast, warning canceller option, along with PNP DRL harness, will this get me what I want and need? Thanks in advance. That will be exactly what you need. Mine is a unique vehicle as it was a California titled vehicle where DRLs are required by law. It required all of those items to get everything to work properly without blowing fuses, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71Dragtruck Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Thanks. No problem. If you have any more questions, PM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normcloutier Posted September 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Prinzll, did your edge have Halogen DRL's or no DRL at all? Curious why you needed to DRL module for the HID's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Prinzll, did your edge have Halogen DRL's or no DRL at all? Curious why you needed to DRL module for the HID's? My Edge had halogen DRLs. As previously mentioned, the Edge was a California car where the law requires DRLs. I tried connecting everything w/o the modules and wound up blowing at several 10A fuses for the headlights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibre Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Canadian DRLs Easiest solution to installing HIDs when the headlights are programmed as DRLs is the following. Go to any mechanic or dealer. Tell them to switch over your DRLs to the parking lights. It is simply done with a scan tool takes 2 min. Now your HIDs will not cause any issues. FYI...the program does not allow for turning off the DRLs permanently. Two choices headlights or parking lights. I did it and all is well except trying to locate 9012 bulbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibre Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Canadian DRLs Easiest solution to installing HIDs when the headlights are programmed as DRLs is the following. Go to any mechanic or dealer. Tell them to switch over your DRLs to the parking lights. It is simply done with a scan tool takes 2 min. Now your HIDs will not cause any issues. FYI...the program does not allow for turning off the DRLs permanently. Two choices headlights or parking lights. I did it and all is well except trying to locate 9012 bulbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarbon90 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Hey Calibre, Where did you get it done? was it a dealer/mechanic in the greater Toronto area? Because i tried 2 dealerships and one of them refused to do it, while the other offer to hard wire it. Does a regular scan tool work? My bad for all the questions, ive been to multiple dealers and mechanics and all of them had a negative answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normcloutier Posted October 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 My niece works in quick service at a Ford dealership. She asked the guys in the main service dept about reprogramming the DRL function from the halogen headlights to the amber lights and they said it can't be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibre Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I'll have an answer about this shortly when I speak to the mechanic that did my Edge. I watched him plug in his laptop into the PCM under my dash and he scrolled thru all the functions of the vehicle, then found DRLs and switched them to parking lights. That's what Ford does when you order factory hids the DRLs are moved to parking lights. My friend engineer at Ford said the Edge is the same vehicle built in Oakvile shipped everywhere and all they do is program (Miles or Km ) (DRLs or not) HIDs or not. The vehicle is not built differently, they simply program differently. I will ask my mechanic why the dealers can't or won't do it. I'll post the details soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibre Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Ok I spoke to Bob at Airbag Service in Hamilton. Anyone who wants their DRLs switched over to parking lights you can contact him. $ 100 approx. He says the dealers don't want to deal with it there's no money in it. Email this for an appointment. airbagexpert@me.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normcloutier Posted October 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Sometimes I think people on this forum know more about the Edge than the dealers do. I stopped in at my dealer to inquire about reprogramming the DRL's. The first service person didn't even know that some edges have the amber lights as DRL's. The second of course said that kind of programming has to be done at factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 I had to revisit that with my dealership and got them turned off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtapang77 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) Hi 71Dragtruck, any update on your set-up? Did it work? I have the same problem. I have tried using a capacitor (together with a harness, relay and hid kit) and still didn't work. The relay kept on buzzing and the bulb is still flickering when on drl (I also live in canada). Something about a pulsating current if I'm not mistaken. I had this same set-up on my 2008 edge so i had to turn on the headlights on low everytime i drive and turn it off when I park. That was the only way it'd work for me then. I'm hoping to keep the switch on auto this time with my 2013 edge. Please give us an update if prinzil's set-up works for our canadian vehicles. Thanks. By the way, our dealership here also doesn't want to meddle with turning off/swithching the drl. Edited October 19, 2012 by mtapang77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normcloutier Posted October 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Lets all chip in and buy a programmer. We'll make a fortune! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc300c Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Lets all chip in and buy a programmer. We'll make a fortune! Norm, The shipping costs for the "community" programmer will eat up all that extra beer money you had planned on :-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc300c Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Lets all chip in and buy a programmer. We'll make a fortune! Norm, The shipping costs for the "community" programmer will eat up all that extra beer money you had planned on :-). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normcloutier Posted October 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Anyone else who has headlights as DRL's successfully get HID's installed? My dealer wont even acknowledge they can change the DRL function to the turn signals. I would think that the relay harness would be a must otherwise the reduced voltage would not let the ballast operate properly but may be enough to fire the relay. Anyone meter the voltage on the halogen when on DRL? Curious what it is? Someone mentioned pulsating voltage when the lamp is running as DRL. Comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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