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#1 OFFLINE   xbillmh

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 02:33 PM

Anyone have the pages from the shop manual for an oil change on the 2.7 liter eco-boost for the Edge and/or any related service bulletins?  The owner's manual does not contain any instructions for an oil change.  Thanks in advance for any help. 

 

On a separate note, I saw that an old version of the 2015 Ford Edge owner's manual contain a misprint for the 2.7 liter oil filter specification.  The old version incorrectly lists the filter as a FL-500-S, when it is actually an FL-2062 cartridge style filter. 









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#2 OFFLINE   27Sport

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 03:30 PM

Loosen filter cartridge cover to allow oil to drain down.

 

Remove oil drain plug (plastic type and can be done by hand). Replace drain plug.

 

Replace filter cartride and use new supplied o-ring. Re-install cartridge cover.

 

Fill engine with oil. Allow 15 minutes for oil level to read correctly as there is a chamber where the dipstick goes in to that has to fill.


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Posted 22 September 2015 - 09:13 AM

Loosen filter cartridge cover to allow oil to drain down.

 

Remove oil drain plug (plastic type and can be done by hand). Replace drain plug.

 

Replace filter cartride and use new supplied o-ring. Re-install cartridge cover.

 

Fill engine with oil. Allow 15 minutes for oil level to read correctly as there is a chamber where the dipstick goes in to that has to fill.

 

LOL pretty much this.  

 

I believe you can access the oil filter from the top.  I am due for an oil change myself.



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Posted 22 September 2015 - 12:40 PM

Pretty much what has been posted. Sorry, last time I was able to save the procedure as a pdf file.

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 01:02 PM

Your PDF baking skills are brilliant anyway, thanks, Reloaded! :)


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Posted 22 September 2015 - 04:34 PM

HTH.

Attached File  2015 Ford Edge 2.7EB Oil & Filter Change x.PDF   509.68KB   171 downloads


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#7 OFFLINE   WingNut

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 07:16 AM

Love how the drain plug can be taken out without a wrench.  I was reading other forums that talk about the 2.7L oil change and said the oil comes out pretty fast while draining so be prepared.



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Posted 23 September 2015 - 12:03 PM

Thanks for the great information, but I don't see the first steps of the process displayed in the attached images or the .pdf.  Specifically, is there a shroud underneath the engine that needs to be removed to access the drain plug?  I glanced underneath the car just for a second and didn't see an obvious place to access the plug.  It looks like there may be more than one shroud piece underneath and I don't want to waste time taking off and removing covers unnecessarily.  Thanks again.


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Posted 28 September 2015 - 12:39 PM

any idea how much oil this thing takes?



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Posted 28 September 2015 - 12:48 PM

any idea how much oil this thing takes?

 

6 quarts.  It is listed in the Owner's Manual.



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Posted 28 September 2015 - 12:50 PM

Thanks for the great information, but I don't see the first steps of the process displayed in the attached images or the .pdf.  Specifically, is there a shroud underneath the engine that needs to be removed to access the drain plug?  I glanced underneath the car just for a second and didn't see an obvious place to access the plug.  It looks like there may be more than one shroud piece underneath and I don't want to waste time taking off and removing covers unnecessarily.  Thanks again.

 

If anything like my Mustang, the shroud will have some text on it saying to remove it to change oil.  With arrows pointing to the screws/fasteners that will need to be loosened.



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Posted 28 September 2015 - 01:01 PM

There is no access door on my daughter's Focus or my Fusion or the wife's Escape - you have to remove the entire shroud.  Major PITA, although a driver with a torx bit makes it easier.



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Posted 28 September 2015 - 01:01 PM

any idea how much oil this thing takes?

 

As Wingnut pointed out - NEVER guess at that type of thing - all the info you need on fluids, filters, capacities, spec, etc. is in the owner's manual.



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Posted 28 September 2015 - 02:22 PM

We have the twin turbo. After changing the oil should we let the engine idle for 15 minuets to let the oil get to the turbo so we do not over-heat the bearings?



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Posted 28 September 2015 - 03:00 PM

Not necessary.  Procedure is no different on ecoboost engines.



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Posted 28 September 2015 - 03:07 PM

No need, but a minute or so wouldn't hurt IMHO.  Also, do not shut the engine off right after coming off a hard run.  Always allow a little time for coolant temps (and hence oil temps) to drop beforehand.  So a couple of minutes of conservative driving before your intended shutoff point is a good idea.

 

The exhaust manifolds are watercooled, but not the turbos, apparently.  On the 3.5L EB, the turbos are both water- & oil-cooled.

We have the twin turbo. After changing the oil should we let the engine idle for 15 minuets to let the oil get to the turbo so we do not over-heat the bearings?

From the 3.5L EB's media kit:

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Turbochargers operate at high speed – up to 170,000 rpm – and under intense temperatures of up to 950 degrees Celsius (1,740 degrees Fahrenheit).  Some previous-generation turbos were reputed to suffer from oil coking, in which they would bake their lubricating oil.  Because oil coking can lead to premature turbocharger bearing failures, Ford’s advanced engine engineers specified the use of new, water-cooled turbochargers to combat this problem.

 

“During normal turbo operation, the turbo receives most of its bearing cooling through oil,” said Keith Plagens, turbo system engineer.  “After shut down, the problems with turbos in the past were you would get coking in the center bearing.  Oil would collect in the bearings, the heat soaks in and the oil would start to coke on the side and foul the bearing.  Water cooling – used in the EcoBoost engine – eliminates that worry.”

 

The new EcoBoost V-6 uses two Honeywell GT15 water-cooled turbos. 

 

“The EcoBoost engine uses passive thermal siphoning for water cooling,” Plagens explains.  “During normal engine operation, the engine’s water pump cycles coolant through the center bearing.  After engine shutdown renders the water pump inactive, the coolant flow reverses.  Coolant heats up and flows away from the turbocharger water jacket, pulling fresh, cool coolant in behind.  This highly effective coolant process is completely silent to the driver, continuing to protect the turbocharger.”


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Posted 30 September 2015 - 03:40 PM

Ha-Ha.... Thermo-syphon cooling systems used to be common on farm tractors back in the 1930's and early '40's. Yes, it works, sorta, but is slow as heck! Still a good idea to let your turbocharged engine idle 2 to 5 minutes depending on how hard and how long you ran it.

The small amount of coolant thermo-syphon would give a water cooled turbo bearing would extend it's service life.

I always heard once you got things cooled off to 300-350 degrees F that coking wasn't a concern, even with dino oil.

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Posted 30 September 2015 - 06:47 PM

You don't need to idle 2 to 5 minutes.  Ceramics changed a lot with turbos.



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Posted 01 October 2015 - 11:41 AM

My brother learned the hard way...." after every oil change you do not perform yourself......double check the oil levels!!!!!"  He has a wrx that he soon learned after a dealer oil change that they only put one quart in......two weeks later he started geting check oil and check engine lights...went to check the oil levels and the dip was dry...he then needed to put in over 4 quarts just to bring it up to level.....then about 2 weeks later his engine blew up.....he was lucky in that his wrx is still on warranty.....moral of this story is to always check your oil....I check mine after every second fill......and I change oil every 5000km.


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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:27 PM

What oil are you using, cds71?  Theoretically, even dino oil can be used as long as it meets the Ford spec (so as not to void warranty), but at (approx) halved the suggested intervals, so they say (!).






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