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Here is my 2020 vs 2021 ST story. Picked up new 2020 ST with 401A, ST Performance Brake Package, Cold Weather Package, and Rapid Red Paint. MSRP with dealer $199 tinted windows was $53,134. Total discounts/rebates/sales tax credit on trade-in was $13,500. That plus my excellent condition very low mileage 2016 Sport trade-in resulted in $19,698 on the road out of pocket costs to me. I thought this was a pretty good deal. The vehicle had been at the dealership for 133 days. Would have liked the 2021 ST with revised 7 Speed transmission, 12" Infotainment screen, and Sync 4, but no where near the price of my 2020. Understand the 2020 was already considered to be a year old from a value standpoint. Like that the 2020 ST is more sports tuned than my previous 2016 Sport and the additional 20HP and 30 foot pounds of torque. The more I drive it the more I like it. The build date was 11/2020 which is pretty late in the model year I would think. PS: I read about the 8-Speed vs 7-Speed second gear removal and it didn't seem to make that much difference. Thanks for the info on the 12" screen, I also prefer tactile feedback.

Thank You. Yes, this is the upgraded brake package which includes 21" wheels. No plans for debadging or anything else like a tune etc. I like it just the way it is. ST Performance Brake Package $2,695 list price on the window sticker. • 21” Premium Gloss Black-Painted Aluminum Wheels • Front and Rear Vented Disc Brakes with Unique Front Rotors (13.6” size) • Brake Calipers – Painted Colorado Red • Brushless Radiator Cooling Fan • Performance Brake Pads • Summer Only Tires • Vented Brake Shields Note: Includes Tire Inflator and Sealant Kit with the Summer Only Tires

Both myself (2016 Edge Sport) and my niece (2017 Explorer Sport) bought ESP warranty's from Anderson & Koch. The contract stipulates ESP PremiumCare. I also confirmed the ESP coverage with my local Ford dealer service advisor. Mine: Purchased on 01-15-17 2016 Edge Ext. Warr. 8 yrs 60k miles (don't drive many miles) ESP PremiumCARE Plan. $1,110 + $60 for interior/exterior lights coverage = $1,170 Suggest calling: Jeremy Klund - Business Mgr - 651-674-4465 - 800-758-3673 - 651-674-5032 F Anderson & Koch Po Box 158 North Branch, MN 55056

I researched Ford extended warranty's in Jan. 2017 after my purchase of a 2016 Edge Sport in Dec. 2016. Anderson Koch Ford was the best price at the time. I did not purchase the Edge there. I understand online extended warranty pricing can change between Ford dealers at any time. Here are my notes from my purchase. Please note, I drive low miles annually so take this into account in the pricing. I also added the extra cost light/bulb package for all inside and outside lights for an additional $60. The LED lighting, especially on the rear hatch can be expense to replace as Ford does not replace individual LED lights but replaces the entire LED assembly. MY NOTES 01-15-17 2016 Edge Ext. Warranty. 8 yrs 60k miles ESP PremiumCARE Plan. $1,110 + $60 - interior/exterior lights = $1,170 . Anderson & Koch Ford. 5577 St. Croix Trial North Branch, MN. 651-674-4465 - 800-758-3673 http://andersonandkoch-ford-warranty.com/Jeremy Klund. Jeremy was very easy to work with I would recommend him. Jeremy stated they sell extended warranty's in volume at a low markup which is how they can offer lower prices. Jeremy Klund - Business Mgr - 651-674-4465 - 800-758-3673 - 651-674-5032 F Anderson & Koch Po Box 158 North Branch, MN 55056 I called Ford (see below to obtain a quote) and was quoted $2,400 for the same coverage. I also called a Ford Fleet Manager friend of mine to solicit a quote and shared the Anderson Koch price and he said "buy it", so I did. Ford Extended Service Plan HQ - P.O. Box 6045 Dearborn, MI 48121 - 800-521-4144. REPLY FROM ANDERSON KOCH AFTER PURCHASE 01-15-2017 - https://andersonandkoch-ford-warranty.com/forms/thank_you.php Thank you. Your contract will be mailed to you within ten business days. Customer Id: XXXX. Changed from the official id. Response code: Approved Approval code: 191555 Transaction id: 20364839055 You card has been approved. Please keep your Customer ID and Transaction ID for your records. ALSO: My niece purchased a 2017 Explorer Sport and she also purchased extended warranty from Anderson Koch for close to half of what her dealer quoted. ALSO - I facilitated a 2018 Honda Accord purchase for my good friend and neighbor and she not only got a good purchase price, but also an online extended warranty from a Honda dealer in the Eastern U.S. for slightly half of the local dealer price. Ford is not the only only one to sell at lower online prices.

I have a 2016 Edge Sport (June 2016 build date and purchased in Dec. 2016) and I really like the Adaptive Steering. In April 2017 I started receiving - Adaptive Steering Fault Service Required" repetitively and the AS feature stops working. Many other owners have experienced this problem (not sure if any 2017 Sports have this problem. My fix was a new steering wheel and no problems since then. Nothing twitchy on the road with my AS - but the Lane Departure Warning feature sometimes torques the steering wheel to one side or the other (somewhat unexpectedly) even if you are not close to leaving your current lane. I have the most sensitive setting on this feature set.so that may explain it. I believe this feature reads the little makers embedded in the road to determine your lane position. Overall, very happy with the vehicle's performance and technology.

Here is a video I found on the Edge AS. Not as good as the F250 video at the dealer but still informative. The F250 video might be under the F250 section. I didn't realize there is multiple AS versions. I thought only Normal and Sport but you can select Sport in Sport mode and gain another level of AS handling/function. View the video to see. https://owner.ford.com/content/ford-dot-com/en/how-tos/vehicle-features/convenience-and-comfort/adaptive-steering.html

New steering wheel resolved all the fault issues. I quite like the Adaptive Steering functionality at low speed. Ford has a video (on the F250) at my dealer that shows how the AS works - they quote a 30% reduction in steering wheel turning effort at low speed.

As pointed out there is a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) for this issue. TSB 16-2085 - Effective Dec 2 2016 2015-2016 Edge/2016 MKX - Left Rear Seat Backrest Does Not Fold Down When Using The Second Row Seat Control Switch - Built On Or Before 9-Sep-2016 I took my 2016 Sport for service for this issue on May 8, 2017. Attached is the dealer work order showing the work, parts installed and comments. After the service/parts install (a washer and a bolt), were installed, the closing issue still looks to be about the same. It does appear to close a bit faster, but still not flush like the right seat. So I am just going to live with it. It's not a major inconvenience. I did take it back to service advisor after the work was done and showed him not much improvement (he agreed), just to get it on record. Sorry the attached PDF Dealer work order is not in vertical (but horizontal viewing) format as that is how I took the pic to ensure all the work order details would be viewable.

My work order shows .3 on the line item for the air bag recall work (I assume this is .3 of one hour).

I test drove a 2016 Titanium with the 2.0 and noticed the same noise. The sales person said it was the the design/operation of the injectors. I opted to purchase a 2016 Edge Sport with the 2.7L and no issues with the engine sound from the outside. Quite a bit more HP/Torque with the 2.7 - 315/350 and a 3.19 rear axle ratio. More dollars too but happy with the purchase.

Received second letter, scheduled for Monday 7/10. Will also update after update. Plus New USB 2-Port hub for Apple Car Play to be installed at the same time ($85 labor quote from service advisor - no programming involved - plug & play install). Bought hub at parts department a few weeks ago. FYI - had new steering wheel installed a few weeks ago to resolve Adaptive Steering fault. No problems so far. Upgraded Synch 3 to 2.2 version to permit Apple Car Apple Car Play and that upgrade went well. But i have noticed when selecting from the steering wheel remote advance channel to the next the next favorite Sirius satellite channel - it sometimes won't advance to the next channel at all. To resolve I turn off/on the radio and that seems to resolve the problem. Prior to 2.2 upgrade, I never experienced this problem.

I used to use the Battery Tenders for years but recently changed to using the BatteryMINDer product. I have the 1510 model. https://www.amazon.com/BatteryMINDer-1510-Battery-Charger/dp/B00Q3CM2QY This product has a desulfator which desulfates the battery cells resulting in longer life. At least that's the claim. This model is highly rated at multiple web sites. BatteryMINDer Model 1510 features a SmarTECHnology™ plug 'n run 1.5 Amp battery charger/maintainer with full-time automatic high frequency pulse desulfator (not high voltage)that can help extend a battery's life up to 4 times its normal life.-20°C (-4°F) to 50°C (122°F). operating range. Ideal for charging, maintaining or recovering 12V flooded, sealed, maintenance-free, starter, deep-cycle, Optima brand sealed AGM, and marine batteries. Worldwide 100–240 VAC 50/60 Hz input. FCC compliant and California Energy Commission certified. The unit can maintain up to four 12 Volt batteries at one time when connected in parallel by using SmarTechnology™ Y-Connectors (part# 210AY). The 1510 features all the same great capabilities of our most popular model, the 1500 but also includes the RTA-2415 Ring Terminal Assembly and BC-AA Battery Clips. What's in the box: BatteryMINDer charger/maintainer/desulfator system, RT-2415 Ring Terminal Assembly with Quick Connector, BC-AA Insulated battery clips, Ambient temperature sensor (installed), Optional permanent mounting tab

Forgot too add: Adaptive Cruise/Collision Warning is not included in 401A and is a separate package as quoted in an earlier post- priced at $1,150 for 2016 Sports if I recall correctly.

Agree with the postings from the others. I own a 2016 Sport with 401A and personally would not buy a Sport without the 401A. $3k or so ok, but $5k no. As stated by others, suggest continue to shop around and/or expand the search area.

Brought my own Mobile One. Bought the filter at the dealer. Paid $21.57 for all, including filter, labor, disposal charges and some other minor charge I don't recall at this time.

I have owned a number of Fords over the years. Latest is 2016 Edge Sport, 2014 Edge SEL, previously several F150s, Taurus, Focus. I always bring my own Mobil One oil and usually purchase a Motorcraft filter at the dealer. Never had a problem at multiple dealers in several different states. Confirmed with Ford Customer Corporate Service that warranty remains intact.

My service advisor told me the Ford technician doing the repair and said it was safe to drive (even with the fault warning light coming on intermittently) while awaiting the new steering wheel. I drove it for a week with new problem. I have read about steering wheels that were turned 90 degrees to one side even while driving straight. That I could see being unsafe.

Used 32GB San Disk 2.0 and worked fine first time. Manny 2525: Besides the 5 files you listed in the SyncMyRide folder - you also need on the USB drive. Autoinstall.lst - This starts the install process Dontindx.msa - Not sure what this does Detailed instructions are on www.owner.ford.com under Sync3 section. Or call Ford Technical Support and they can assist you. To access Technical Support - Ford Tech Technology Center - 800-392-3673 press #1 for English & then press #3 for the Technology Center. I have spoken to them a couple of times and they are very helpful and knowledgeable. Hope this helps.

Got the new steering wheel fix on 5/7/17. So far so good with no fault messages. Will advise the forum (and Ford) if any more fault messages. My service advisor did say the technician had to contact Ford Technology Center to implement the required "programming" to complete the new wheel installation.

Owner.Ford.Com - Under Sync3 Software Upgrade to 2.2 section - Use empty 32GB USB Disk Storage.

I think with X plan the doc fee is limited to $100 or so vs the big doc fee (read mostly pure dealer profit) of $399-$799 (or more depending on which manufacturer). Can you confirm the doc fee amount? Thx THIS WAS 2014 Document Fees Dealers will be permitted to assess up to $100 in documentary fees on each delivery to an eligible purchaser under the terms of the Plan, unless otherwise provided by state or local laws or regulation. Each dealer is responsible for complying with applicable laws or regulations. Unless otherwise provided by state or local laws or regulation: In states where dealers are not permitted to charge as much as $100 for doc fees, dealers would be capped at the lesser amount as provided by the state. In states that permitted more than $100, dealers would be permitted to charge the Plan customer $100. In states that permitted more than $100 and also required that all customers be charged the same amount, dealers may charge the Plan customer $100 and indicate any additional fees have been paid by Ford Motor Company as part of the AXZD-Plan Program dealer reimbursement on the buyer's order. Doc Fee Charges should be detailed on the AXZD Plan Pricing Agreement located in number 4.

Congrats! Post pics after it arrives.

I purchased an extended warranty from: The price was about 50% less than Ford Corporate ESP or my local dealer. These online dealers make their money on volume ESP sales is how they can provide such low pricing. Keep in mind that prices can change month to month. I have no personal interest in this dealer, simply passing on my purchase experience. http://andersonandkoch-ford-warranty.com/ Jeremy Klund - Business Mgr (very helpful) - 651-674-4465 - 800-758-3673 - 651-674-5032 F Anderson & Koch Po Box 158 North Branch, MN 55056 01-15-17 2016 Edge Ext. Warr. 8 yrs 60k miles ESP PremiumCARE Plan. $1,110 + $60 - interior/exterior lights = $1,170 Amx. Anderson & Koch Ford. 5577 St. Croix Trial North Branch, MN. 651-674-4465 - 800-758-3673 http://andersonandkoch-ford-warranty.com/Jeremy I researched pricing from a number of dealers and I selected Anderson & Koch as their price and ratings were very positive. Here are dealers I reviewed: https://www.floodfordesp.com/ http://andersonandkoch-ford-warranty.com/ Ziegler - http://www.zeiglerfordesp.com/ Flood - http://www.floodfordesp.com/faq.php - https://www.floodfordesp.com/esp_plans.php?PlanDetailID=9&ModelID=5&VehicleYear=2016&VehicleMileage=276&StateID=29&Surcharge1=0&AWD=1&Surcharge4=0&Surcharge2=0&Surcharge3=0&Submit=Continue http://www.lombardfordwarrantys.com/ https://championfordwarranty.com/Quotesview.asp?ID=18824 Good luck and please let the board here know your outcome.

Update - Parts on order for all 3 issues. (1) Airbag recall, (2) AS fault - new steering wheel - dealer had to obtain Ford approval in advance, (3) Rear seat part. Quoted me a week for all parts to arrive. Picked up vehicle as they said safe to drive, just disabled. I quite like AS and definitely difference notice at low speed. Have to check when AS work completed, as one person on this forum after his new steering wheel install cited the the dash AS options no longer included both Sport and Normal options. Forget which one did not appear. TSB - is 16-2085 = Effective Dec. 2, 2016. 2015-2016 Edge/2016 MKX - Left Rear Sear back Backrest Does Not Fold Down When Using the Second Row Seat Control Switch - Built on or Before Sept 9, 2016. I am glad I purchased a Ford ESP 5 year ext. (5 years past 3/36 factory warranty) warranty with zero deductible at 50% of what local dealer and Ford Corp. wanted for coverage for all the Edge Sport tech features. Agreed Ford Country is overall very good on service. I previously had a 2014 Edge and was very satisfied. I believe the Service Writers are financially incentivized to achieve high customer satisfaction ratings. I overheard my guy on the phone telling a customer only all "5" (highest) ratings were acceptable. He is pretty good - Michael Robinson. Don't know if you can request a specific SA, but I will try for any future work. How long have you been waiting from the order date? Seems like if has been a while. Overall, I am very pleased with my 2016 Edge Sport.