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Point taken... I'm sure most people are satisfied with the lube they are using. It's subjective without doing a lab analysis to verify. May I ask what you are using?

Did Ford fix the problem from gen 1 then? Did Ford tackle the "real" problem of the PTU overheating, besides just putting a little air scoop under the vehicle? Not entirely from what I have read.

Thanks for your comments. At what millage are you going to change your PTU fluid? I am certainly old enough to see through the "media hype" and my posting about the PTU only came after reading hundreds of posts and a good amount of internet investigation. I do think the Edge is a good vehicle in many ways, but believe Ford is negligent for blatantly refusing to address the PTU issue for over ten years. I am not alone in my distaste for Ford, as many other long time Ford buyers have said no more. I have purchased quite a few vehicles in my time, so I well know all manufacturers have issues, but what matters is how those are handled. Ford has not done well there. So currently I am looking at a Jeep product.

I have spent well over two months going over the info in this and other Ford forums and have reached a dismal conclusion. This PTU problem has gone on for over a decade with Ford just watching and not acting. When a manufacturer has a problem and they all do, address it and solve it. Put an engineering team on it and solve the problem! This PTU problem has really highlighted a serious problem with Ford in general, and that is the unwillingness to identify and address major problems and the lack of warranty support. I don't want to buy from a car from a company like that. Forget the 2019 Edge... there are too many other choices out there and I will not have to support Ford in the process. Ford should be ashamed of it's lack of integrity, which is so clearly displayed across all the forums.

Is there someone out there that works for Ford or is a Ford mechanic that can shed some light what Ford is doing to address this issue. Have they changed the maintenance requirements? Have they acknowledged the problems listed on many Ford owner sites with the PTU? After reading pages and pages of Ford owners dealing with this I can see a fluid change 20K miles would be wise. With the heat buildup and the measly 18oz of fluid it would make sense in my opinion. Ford obviously knows of issues as they put an air scoop to help cool the PTU. Any thoughts? I think this is from a gen 1 MKX owners manual: "Edge/MKX AWD only – vehicles operating off-road in sand during high ambient temperatures must replace the AWD PTU (All-wheel drive Power Transfer Unit) lube every 20,000 miles (32,000 km)." ​Drive in Phoenix for a while... talk about high ambient temperatures.

Not trying to debate who has the "best" products but Amsoil quality is undisputed, and yes for the most part you have to order it online from Amsoil. It's no problem for me as I order enough to last a year or so. You get what you pay for when buying automotive lubricants and would rather have peace of mind knowing I'm using the best products available. I have been astonished at the results using Amsoil for well over 30 years. Personal experience taking care of fleet vehicles and many others has taught me to use no other! Never was sold by all the hype from brands like Royal Purple and others, and please no comments as I'm not bashing RP, just saying Amsoil does not need marketing savvy to move product.

Been using Amsoil products for over 30 years so I looked up the Amsoil replacement for the PTU fluid. Synthetic 75-140, and comes in a squeeze bottle for easy filling. https://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/gear-lube/severe-gear-75w-140/?code=SVOPK-EA

After reading all this on the PTU I understand many people not wanting to purchase the Ford AWD. Sounds like the problem still exists on the 2015's and newer. I was thinking of a 2019 but refuse to have to "worry" about these things when paying over 40K. I completely understand about doing good maintenance and have always done so. I have always used Amsoil products as I believe they are one the very best you can get, but this issue seems to defy regular maintenance. Definitely am having second thoughts, and why if this has been an ongoing issue for years has Ford not corrected the problem. And why in many cases has Ford not willingly repaired these without the dealers using subterfuge.

More reason to use a top rated synthetic oil. Amsoil is the top here.Been using for 30 years and would not use anything else.

I totally agree. I will purchase the AWD just to get the paddle shifters.

I use the select shift feature all the time on my present vehicle as I drive very steep mountain roads and really need those lower gears for drag. Just depends on where you drive I guess.

Thanks Akirby, time will tell I guess.

Thanks Akirby, I thought the GM based 9 speed (now Ford 8 speed) would be on the majority of the 2019 Edge's and the ST would have the Ford based 8 speed. Guess we'll see how that turns out. I believe GM has been using the 9 speed for a few years now.

Production starts on September 3rd, so they have known for some time that they will not be putting paddle shifters on any Edge with FWD. This is my understanding from the info I received. I could be wrong. Just wanted someone still working for Ford to verify why they decided to do this, as many people I have spoke with agree that it's a great feature to have, with some saying they would not own another vehicle without it.

Trying to get an answer about the discontinuation of paddle shifters on the 2019 Edge FWD is useless. Cannot even get Ford to return an email except one which said "not my job" Talk to someone else. VERY DISAPPOINTING!

Hello DaMiFo, good to hear from someone with FORScan & UCDS knowledge here on the Edge forum. Looking forward to acquiring a Ford Edge in a few months or so. Congrats on the Edge!

I live in Arizona and can encounter 118 degree temps in the summer. Ugh.

Thanks Akirby, As long as it's possible to permanently turn it off makes me feel better. I do agree that I should try it first, but as long as I have an "out" if I don't like it is great.

I am thinking of purchasing a 2019 Edge but from everything I've read, the Start/Stop feature is extremely annoying. As it is now standard on the Edge and there is no way to turn it permanently off, would just not be acceptable. So Between NO paddle sifters (select shift) and the stupid Start/Stop issue, I am starting to look elsewhere. Driving should be a pleasurably experience and why would Ford not alloy one to permanently turn this awful feature off.

The wife says the ST is too "manly" "black" looking! We both love the Titanium though and we looked at the MKX (Nautilus) and it's a beautiful car, but just so upscale classy looking and does not fit our personalities. Decisions, decisions...

Out of all the 2019 autos I'm looking to purchase, the Edge is the ONLY one not to give me a choice of a larger engine and the Edge is at the upper end of my range. Ugh!

All true akirby. Just seems strange to me that Ford decided not to offer ANY other engine choice for the Edge, except of the ST. Just think Ford should have been a little more consumer savvy, as the Edge is a top selling auto.

Hmm... Well, that is the ONLY engine in the 2019 Edge besides the ST and I don't consider the Edge a less expensive vehicle. The 2019 I'm looking at comes in at about $45K.

I've noticed that the 2.7 & 3.3 EB are getting both direct and port injection starting this fall. So it seems that Ford is saying that direct injection only can cause problems, so they are adding port injection, which makes sense. So my question is since the 2l EB is one of Fords highly used engines, do they plan on having both port and direct injection on the 2l EB soon? Or just sticking with direct injection?

Would the 2019 2l EB need a catch can? Or does the 2019 2l EB have both port and direct injection?