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I'm not a member of that forum and cannot see the photos. Are you referring to this?

I have been working with Unleashed tuning for my E50 tune and Torrie noticed an erratic signal coming from the WGDC? (Waste Gate... DC??? I'm not really sure). This happens on all of my aftermarket tunes and my stock tune according to Torrie. The stock tune isn't AS erratic as his tunes, but is still erratic. I'm simply going off of what he told me. I am not very familiar with this tuning stuff. He told me he believes it is likely coming from "the boost control system, actuators, control module or lines in between those." Does anyone have any previous experience with failure and/or replacement of any of these issues? There are no CEL codes, but there also was no codes thrown when there was an intake leak from a broken fitting, so I am not sure what to make of that. Any help or direction would be excellent

Got my E50 tune from Unleashed Tuning dialed in, and it's kinda unreal how fast it feels.

@CrackedDSM There is one member on here running 295/35/21. I can't remember who it is but I believe that individual has upgraded turbos and they seemed to love the traction offered, but IIRC he is running summer tires, not all-seasons. I do get a little slip with my E50-tuned-but-otherwise-stock 2015 AWD running 265/40/21 tires. I am riding on the heavy ass OEM wheels as well, if I had some light weight wheels, I am certain traction would be an issue.

Lol I love the subtle jab at the camaro Welcome

Yea I'll try to get a video of a 0-60 run. I wish I had a factory freak, but I swear it seems like every car I own is the opposite lol. It probably is some sort of vacuum leak somewhere with 117k on it. I remember when I learned what a factory freak was, when the 2013 GT500's came out I read an article that talked about how 1 out of every 100 GT500 crankshafts did not need a tungsten counter weight. I do not recall the weight of the counterweights used (certainly its different for every crankshaft depending on how far out of balance it is) but being tungsten on a rotating component I would imagine it's relatively very heavy.

Well I got the E50 tune dialed in from Torrie at Unleashed. I have to say I'm VERY impressed with the tune. I also have a 93 octane tune from Torrie and the driveability of the E50 tune is just like stock. The driveability of the 93 tune isn't terrible, or even bad, but you can tell it is an aftermarket tune. The shifting strategy of the E50 tune is incredibly smooth. Unfortunately I don't have Dragy or dyno, or track results to back it up, but I would imagine the improvements are at least in line with (but probably better as he has an E30 tune and I have an E50 tune) the Dragy results posted by @CrackedDSM on his November 15th posts in this thread. Has anyone ever had issues dialing in the Waste Gate parameters during tuning? Torrie asked if I had ever done any turbo work because the turbo control values look weird. To the best of my knowledge the vehicle is 100% stock, but I also bought it with 76k miles.

Do you test at every fill up? that seems like it would be a real pain, and technically that one test is only good until they get their next shipment of E85

Well I went to the station which has E85 (only guaranteed from 51-87%, so that's off putting) Filled up the tune, moved to a parking spot and uploaded the tune. Shortly after I ran a datalog and sent it back to Torrie. Waiting to get my first revision And I am off from there. Does anyone measure their Ethanol content?

What's the best way to upload an Ethanol tune? Do it at the house then calmly drive to the gas station, fill it up then change the tune? some other way?

FYI, Unleashed Performance does do Ethanol tunes, I just purchased an E50 tune from Torrie

I have no idea why I didn't think to ask him... I just assumed he didn't write them and I honestly don't know why. Thanks for the suggestion.

I am not sure how many options are available for the Edge ST, but it is fairly limited

I'm not going to pretend to know what all goes into the calculations, although I'm sure someone on this board knows. But I believe the oil change indicator does not come on until 10% oil life left. The main factors you left out of your visual and olfactory analysis are lubricity and cooling ability of the oil, neither of which are easily detectable by the 5 human senses without the right tools. Oil changes are "cheap enough" that I wouldn't try to stretch it past what the car says is the usable life.

OR They could just remove touch screens altogether. Better stick with a 2020 or older then. You know what's funny, you talk about a 12" screen being the size of a computer monitor, me and everyone I work with bitches about having to use a 15" laptop screen because it's too small haha. So a 12" screen is no good at all for electronics except in a car I suppose. Too big to be a phone and too small to be a computer. There's no point to that, I just find it interesting.

I generally think Ford's styling has been very lackluster since about 2015, but I think the Corsair and the Aviator are a couple of "bright spots" in that regard. I hate the rear end styling of the explorer, although the ST we bought is growing on me.

HAHA, nah I didn't mean anything negative by that comment. It was just all of the back and forth of the thread up to that point was about the trans.

It'll be interesting to see what kind of trans ends up in that

If I am not mistaken, vehicle weight matters A LOT as well. I believe there is about a 1000 lb difference. If vehicle weight does in fact matter (correct me if I am wrong), it may not need to get a beefed up version of the 8F35.

Interesting... with it putting out much less torque and being a smaller vehicle, I doubt it would get the same 7 speed the ST is getting, but I clearly know very little about transmissions ?

HAHA, I guess you didn't read much of this thread.

Could be a CV shaft or even a bent wheel

Thanks omar, I did see that publication you attached, and unfortunately there is literally one mention of a 7 speed trans ?. But to your point, I can appreciate the critical thinking that went into this and I would wager you're probably correct. I have a 2015, and assuming the gear ratios are the same, I have to agree that I have no problem with the gears/shifting strategy. It appears that the gain in torque multiplication from the added 2nd gear is potentially lost with having an additional shift in there. I do not feel like 1st gear and 2nd gear are too close in my 2015, but I see how it possibly could be in the 2019-20. However, and I don't say this to be rude to @omar302, nor was I trying to be rude to @akirby or @Fingernip or @Perblue, I am just hoping there is someone with better "google-fu" than myself to find something more definite as to why and how with the changes. I appreciate everyone's insight and thoughts though. And I can also recognize, as previously mentioned, this speculation may be the closest we ever get to the truth.

Thanks, this is the type of thing I was looking for. I was always under the impression that the differences in these transmissions was simply gear substrates and ratios to allow for different torque and vehicle applications. I did not know that the internal components and packaging sizes are different. I will never pretend to be a transmission expert. However, this still doesn't answer my initial questions. Why the gear change, why only the ST (however now is seems obvious since it is its own transmission, but even this isn't a known fact), and then how was it accomplished? I'm just curious, I don't have a NEED to know. If I did I'm sure Ford would tell me ?

Are you certain it wasn't due to size, cost, logistics, manufacturing or other issues? Sometimes it even has to do with manpower (not wanting to cut or create other jobs). I'm thankful for all of the theories, because it definitely helps you think. But so far there are no answers to my question, just lots of speculation. I was really hoping for some definitive information, which I have been unable to find through a google search. Also, you misinterpreted my post. I wasn't asking why two different transmissions were used. I was asking why the one gear was dropped from the ST to make it a 7 speed instead of an 8 speed, and how it was done (tuning, physically removing gears, or something else).