erikrichard

Seems I touched a nerve in TomCinMi, he's a bit off the rails. Justifying a $50k purchase that's going to be worth $10k in 10 years isn't easy it seems... Drove my beautiful, reliable, comfy 2010 Edge today, didn't die or nothin - it was a beautiful thing.

Hey, if you got monty to burn buy a brand new vehicle every couple years. Somebody's got to buy all the new cars, just ain't gonna be me.

A 30 year old computer wouldn't even be able to access the internet. A good running 30 year old car serves the same purpose a new car does, not a good comparison.

Sneezes and skin cells aren't avoidable, massive depreciation hits are. I don't even mind the farts! (as long as he doesn't do it on the test drive)

Sounds cool, will enjoy having that feature (however useless it actually is) when I buy a 2019 Edge in 10 years for $10k. Maybe it will be yours - if so thanks in advance for paying off $40k worth of depreciation!

Fall for marketing much? If a driver is paying attention there is no difference in accident survival between a new Edge and a 2010 Edge. If you are lazy/inattentive then maybe the features of the new Edge is safer.

I sincerely doubt my 2010 Edge is any less safe than your 2019 Edge, but justify your hugely depreciating asset however you wish. I did mention that luxury vehicles take more of a depreciation percentage hit than economy cars, this is obvious. Buying a 2019 Edge ST is certainly a luxury vehicle compared to say a Ford Fiesta. Nobody buying a $50k vehicle has any reason to complain about depreciation, surely you knew going in it would be worth about half what you paid in 3 or so years? or were you that naive?

All new vehicles depreciate horribly, the more luxury the model the greater depreciation loss you will face regardless of brand. I'm way too cheap to ever buy a new vehicle. The advantage of warranty doesn't effect me because I do all my own maintantence and repairs. The advantage of financing doesn't effect me because I always pay with cash. The advantage of having the latest and greatest doesn't effect me because I could care less what others think and am easily impressed by 10 year old tech. Maybe in 10 years I'll buy a 2019 Edge, and will be just as impressed then as I would be owning it today.

I would just dump and fill rather than pay for a flush, it's stupid easy since there isn't a filter to replace. I watched this video and did mine in a few minutes.

My 2010 still has a couple gallons after it shows "0 miles to empty", weird that your 2013 differs from a 2010 and 2016.

Stories like this and my own experiences are why I have done all my own maintenance and repairs for the last 20 years. It's not to save money or because I enjoy it - its because I need to know it was done right.

The worst part of what they did was making you think the ptu fluid was changed, and leaving you in the position of having original fluid in there and potentially ruining the ptu costing you a lot of money to replace it down the road. That is an absolutely disgusting story, that mechanic committed fraud and I would never step foot in that place again. Well done standing up for yourself and getting a refund.

Let us know how it goes, if the fluid comes out dark I'd ask for a refund just for making you come back and being lied to.

Forget about what you look like to them and stand up for yourself. I'd ask to see the fluid condition that comes out of the ptu just to confirm if this is an establishment I would ever return to.

I don't see any way they could have filled it today, there isn't a drop anywhere. I'd pull the plug and confirm the condition with a zip tie or thick wire or something, and storm the place tomorrow if the fluid isn't new condition. I'd be really ticked off if they pulled this on me.

If this were me I'd pull that plug and if the fluid doesn't look new (it should be obvious if it was just changed) I'd bring it back and explain they can do it again while you watch or you are going to dispute the charges. It's bad enough how much they charged for this job, but I'm not going to let anyone defraud me like that.

What did they charge? I would hope they didn't decide Ford's lifetime fill recommendation meant it was fine but charge you anyway...

I've done this and it was an incredibly messy ordeal, although I didn't have the best method of getting the old fluid out. Filling it would be impossible not to spill it because you fill till it until it spills out. I'd seriously question whether they did it if I were you. If you can pull the plug and check the condition and level by sticking a white zip tie or something into the ptu.

Green was in it and the owner's manual said to use motorcraft green so by 2010 it appears they had already changed it from gold to green. I checked it today after driving about 50 miles since adding a cup, and the level was about a cup higher - in other words, if I hadn't added any a few days ago the level would be about where it was 500 miles ago. Maybe the difference in outside temps had something to do with it, but for now I'm just going to drive and monitor it.

Im not having any overheating issues, only slight coolant loss. Why would a failed tstat cause that?

Once warmed up temp gauge never moves from a bit under halfway. The only thing I can find amiss is it lost about a cup of coolant over the last 500 miles.

Thanks for that video, I just used it to find the weep hole and there are no signs of leaking or coolant residue anywhere around or under it. There are 2 weep holes for the water pump then? I thought there was one behind the alternator.

The 2010 Edge I purchased with 115k miles 2-3 months ago is losing coolant and not sure what to do to figure out where. All coolant checks were done with engine overnight cold. After I bought it I noticed the coolant level was about an inch below the low mark. Yeah I know, I should have paid more attention to that before buying it. I did a dump and fill with motorcraft green as specified in the manual. About 20 miles later level had dropped about 1/2" so I added to just above the low level cold mark. I then drove it about 300 miles and the level didn't drop so I thought it was good. It's been about 500 miles since the last check and I checked it today and the level has dropped about 1/2" (maybe 1/2-3/4 cup I'm guessing?) The oil on the dipstick looks and smells perfect and the level hasn't changed. There are no coolant smells or leaks nor any coolant residue stains anywhere I've looked, including under the engine area. I can't find any evidence of a leak anywhere. It had to go someplace though. Any ideas on what to look for next? should I borrow the Autozone coolant pressure test - can anyone confirm if those come with an adaptor that would fit the expansion tank? If it's being burned off somehow what to look for for evidence of that?

I think it's far more likely that your internal water pump seals failed creating overheating and coolant in the oil. This is a common problem with the 3.5l, and I haven't seen any blown head gasket issues in my searches on the 3.5l issues. Whether it's worth to fix depends on how long you drove it with contaminated oil.

I can't believe with the cost of these vehicles Ford didn't include crossbars with the roof rails.