I'manedgeowner

lidisco, http://www.oilem.com/turbo-fuel-stratified-injection-tsfi-direct-port-injection-carbon-build-up-problem/ if the link doesn't take you there, search catch cans. The Petroleum Institute and others offer much more technical information on this if interested.

Ariel, Mercedes, AMG, Koenigsegg, if you're intent on measuring. Answer this, why does carbon build up on the valves?

akirby, Although damage is definitely a possibility when a rear lower link is used instead of a typical arm, not necessarily. Regardless, without seeing the car or more information it's hard to give any good advice. It would help to just know if the leaning in is positive or negative camber. For Craig, the top leaning in is negative, the bottom leaning in, positive. It would also help to know what the tire tracking is doing. Is the tire inline with the rest of the car. Does it look like it's steering one way or the other? What about tread wear? Is it even? How long have you owned the car? If you bought it used, did you use Carfax or another reporting agency to learn about the car history? If not than I would go with akirby on damage. Assume the worse and hope for the best.

snmjim, Will they be answered? When I have a choice between existing research from people with no skin in the game and marketing hype from someone with skin in the game I do have to admit I have a bias.

Maybe a bit of devils advocate here. I'm not an engine guy but when I read someone write about a catch can being illegal in CA., which I wasn't aware of, and no one explains why that would be a lot gets explained about what I'm reading. Maybe it has something to do with the PCV valve? No one has addressed why catch can's are recommended for the track and an AOS is recommended for the street. Could it have anything to do with the PCV valve? Probably a good question to be able to answer. @lildisco, Catch cans are climate\weather sensitive which may explain your seasonal differences. Along with this climate sensitivity they collect moisture which the can does not capture and goes to the intake.

It would help if you could narrow this down some. Have you tried having a rear alignment done?

Making plans to do this in the fall. Too busy during the summer to take something like this on. The car could end up sitting for weeks and only half done. I'll be more than happy to document this for you. Didn't think anyone would be interested.

Wizard, I didn't even think to look at the profile. Thanks because screwing up is how I learn and remember. Usually. I guess what gets me about this than is why insist on this dealer without a reason? He has to have a reason, right? If he has nothing invested, financial or otherwise, is he a glutton for punishment? Maybe doing the same thing over and over expecting different results? That's a definition for something?

Wizard, I see your point completely. I wasn't disputing anything. I was expanding on possible circumstances. I can't say I know the Edge enough to see it's a 2017 in the write up without being it stated. For all I know it's an 2007. Like the Continental Tire discussion, I know of ContiXXX systems from other situations and the discussion of TPMS and Forscan was all new to me. I've learned a heck of a lot more here than I've helped anyone. As I said, I don't know the circumstances with the OP, the car or the dealer. My point was sometimes there are reasons to pursue the same shop to get it right and unfortunately as the grandkid is going through, they ain't all good guys. Sometimes the customer is myopic about what is and what they want it to be. I'll agree that there is "attitude" with the post and it's not very often that attitude is helpful when dealing with anybody and as you've pointed out, posting for the sake of venting anger and frustration can usually be torn apart by an observant level head. My granddaughter and I will be going back to her garage this afternoon but I've warned her in advance that if she has brought this on herself I will empathize with her but there won't be any sympathy from me. She's a typical, impatient teenager that wants everything now and may have gotten what she asked for, "I want my new car now." We'll see.

One of the grandkids bought their first car last weekend, a PT Cruiser. It spent half of the week in a garage getting all the fluids flushed and changed, filters replaced, basically getting all the maintenance up to date and a tune up. She called me Thursday saying the car would sometimes shake when going slow and the check engine light was on. I told her to stop by in the evening and we could look the car over and scan it but she never showed up. I called her last night to see what was up and she said she took the car back to the garage and they looked it over. She said they told her there was nothing wrong with the car. At the time the shaking hadn't been back but the check engine light is still on so we are going back there together this week. She works part time at the local go kart track and can't afford to be paying two or more garages to do what she has already paid for. I can't speak for what is going on with this guy and the dealer but I can understand not wanting to pay more than once for the same work. Does this apply to Zander's Edge? It is a reason to go back though.

I was involved in racing for years with teams both large and small but health kept me from even attempting to pass the sanctioning physicals. All the drivers and crews were fortunate for it too!

AntDeek, I can't say for sure but I would guess that's more because of the agreement between Ford and Continental and not system potential.

1004ron, No problem. I'm guilty of my fair share of quick reads too. Marchese, Again, no problem. I was just confused about both OEM and knockoffs being used. Summit does sell from a company that makes knockoffs which was the reason for my suggestion.

akirby, Track events like these are great. I took a couple of the grandkids to one at MIS where they got some laps driven in a 63, 289 Shelby Cobra and that sealed their love and appreciation for cars. It really helped with the "grandpa always busy in the garage" complaints. They're a lot older now and will come by just to hang out in the garage too now. Gramma felt cheated though. The Wizard, I've heard and read that Enzo said the same about the E Type. Best looking car ever made. I've also read that Bond only had a DB5 because Jag wouldn't give them an E. Apparently they Jag didn't need any promotional or marketing help with the car. It gets said a lot that this or that car looks like it going 100 MPH sitting still but it's definitely true about the E. Any chance you saw the Gas Monkey episode where the found a rust bucket E and still made good money on it selling it as is? Ouch about the Boss. It was always a coveted car but not like it is now. If you had a Mustang the Boss was the one to have. Too few of the muscle car era cars have survived unfortunately. The closest I came to owning a coveted car back in the day was one of the 100, 427 Thunderbolts but it was sold before I put the $1,200 together to get it. I was still in high school at the time and fought with my parents about getting it and only talked them in to it because it was an automatic. To them, a 4 speed meant "trouble making criminal in training." Those were the days huh? Long shot question but do you know what happened to your Boss? I use to go to the drag strip with one of my sisters boyfriends in 71 and 72. He had a Nova and sold it around the same time and bought it back around 20 years ago. Once he realized that it was his actual car he had to have it. Not really a collector car but to him it's priceless to him. I also know this girl who lost her virginity in it and if the car was ever to be sold again she'd be the first in line for it. Funny about what cars can do to or for people.

1004ron, Maybe clear to you and that's fine but when I read, "20" Edge Sport knockoffs" it's not the way I see it. I've never heard OEM referred to as knockoffs. Take offs yes, knockoffs, no. Knockoff from the dictionary, "copy or imitation."

The Wizard, Beautiful car. What year is it? Original owner? You have to say more than you changed the clutch. It's also one of those cars that has become barn find nest egg. Came across a story a few years back about a guy in Alabama that had one as yard art without an engine and he finally sold it. Through one of those "knew a guy who knew a guy . . ." stories the original engine was found in California. Turned out to be a rare E Type and eventually sold at auction for some outrageous amount. Love stories like this. akirby, Yeah but they were a great 3 laps and worth every penny. Which one was your favorite? I was allowed to play with an R8 at a test track and what a car. The Quatro System has come a long way from where it started.

The tire pressure management system was developed by Continental tires. It actually involves more than what we're use to in cars with maintaining tire pressure. There is a big commercial system for semi trucks that monitors tire degradation. There's ContipressureCheck, ContiSense, ContiProContact, ContiConnect and ContiTech. There's probably even more now but the logo identifies that the PCM contains some aspect of the system which is maintained by Continental Tire and not Ford.

This is second hand information from being around and listening to people who know engines. Of the Eco Boosts the 2.0 is the one to have. It's a "sweet spot" engine and torque machine over a wide RPM range making it a popular engine rally and autocross racing. In fact it's so popular that it costs more than a standard 5.0 Coyote as a crate engine from Ford Performance. It doesn't cost more because it costs more to make. It costs more because people who want it are willing to pay more for it. That said there is a glaring reality about the engine that shouldn't be overlooked. It was originally designed for the Focus. The Focus weighs 1,200 lbs. less than an Edge. That's a lot of extra weight put on the engine so with a daily driver, family car Edge you are never going to see the performance potential of the engine without turning your car in to something completely different than it is now. "Manly" can mean different things to different people but IMO what you need to do for "Manly" with your Edge has nothing to do with the engine. You need to turn your Edge in to a car that can use the engine potential which would begin with shedding weight. If you do that then you have to next look at alterations to the suspension. It wasn't designed around a car that's substantially lighter. Unfortunately this also means you have to approached this with a well thought out plan and you can't do it in progressive steps. The new suspension you put on the car will be designed around how far you go with the car and the new static Center of Mass, CoM, relationship to the active Center of Gravity, CoG, changes to the suspension. It's not feasible to alter the suspension to match each progressive step you make with shedding weight. It's not that it can't be done but it's a lot of extra work and cost for temporary modifications. You'd be better off starting from scratch with a car that "as built" is closer to what you're after. All that said, the engine is capable of massive amounts of more HP. But, considering the engine already operates at 16 lbs. of boost, your family is going to hate you and the car if you pursued the potential. It's also one thing to know what it takes to drive a high reving engine and actually being able to do it. Again it's just my opinion but the Edge is a great car but it is what it is and that's what it was designed and built to be. If you want a "manly" performance car, build one starting with your vision of what one is. Regardless of how long it takes I guarantee when done you'll enjoy a lot more. I don't begrudge what anyone does with their car but I hear this a lot, "I wish I had . . . ."

WWWPerfA_ZN0W, Wow! Sometimes it's obvious when the accountants are making the decisions. If anyone has ever wondered why shops hate warranty work this is a great example. I have a new appreciation for sealed hubs\spindles.

Yup, but now there's a pretentious rationalization for not owning one. Sticker shock and reality never has to brought up. Also saw on the BBC's Top Gear where at top speed the tires were good for about 10 minutes and at some cost equal to a small home. So there's 2 reasons for not owning one. If you're up for a good laugh try one of those on line insurance quotes with some exotic cars. A 3rd reason.

From Yahoo news that's what it said for the Veyron. It has a dry sump system with 21 drain plugs. Why not a grand each? Apparently they have to take half the car apart to get them all. Everyone has an excuse now for why they don't own one.

I'm suspect about what was done with you saying, "They replaced the bearing. . ." I'd need one heck of an explanation about why they were replacing bearings and not the entire hub. Ford's MSRP of the entire knuckle and hub assembly is less than $100 and they were replacing bearings? Maybe it's just me but it just doesn't sound kosher. Labor on a bearing alone has got to be more than putting a new knuckle and hub on. https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/steering-parts-other/knuckle-front-wheel-6478835-1 $94.04 I'm also wondering what your CV boots are made of to be making the racket you describe without going in to what it could be rubbing on. Is it crushed or ripped? EDIT: I can't even find where Ford sells the bearings by themselves. The hubs are available but they aren't listed under "steering," where the knuckle and hub together are listed.

It's been awhile but I have looked at better options but the problem always came down to, these aren't my vehicles. Everything I found left too much of a chance of leaving a tell tale sign of having been there if they weren't permanent mounts to begin with. I'm looking at real time suspension graphs most of the time so I use a large screen so information that smaller screens obscure in the noise can be seen. Half the time I'm on a 20 acre water proving ground at different percentages of water. Sometimes I hardly spend any time looking at the track. I'm more concerned about whiplash than hitting anything. Actually there isn't anything to hit except progressive grades of gravel at the edge of the track. After a while you get to know the track too. You're right that no one should ever consider doing this work on a public road. That's insane. My Ford bought IDS computer has 7 pro and it's suppose to be supported longer with no plans currently to not support it in the future. EDIT: This may be exclusive to Ford since MS maintains and is the IT support for Ford diagnostic systems.

I have access to the former Dana test track in southern Michigan. I'm not on the road with others.

akirby, Hey, we agree. About putting people to work locally though there is kick back from those that do this work for a living already. The answer to this is to put those people to work for them and subsidize their pay and benefits through them rather than a township, city, county or whatever. I totally agree with your answer for Walmart. Easy enough too since it's a private corporation. There are no stocks to be bought for them. Why don't we do it? This is more difficult to figure out with public corporations since it is owned by stock holders but I'm convinced there is a solution to be found if our legislators would just do it instead of being bought with a wink and a nod, to promote lobbied agendas.