carsick30 Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 So, based on some discussions throughout here i saw a numbmer of poeople running DDM Tuning HID setup because of cost savings over that other "M-something-rather". http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-HID-Kit-Slim-Ballast-35W-or-55W $60 vs $150 certainly makes sense to me. Online you can find HID setups for hundreds more than that, but it doesn't mean they are that much better. Here is what I'm interested in: 1. I know a bunch of people said they have been running DDM without issues for at least a couple of years. But, I also saw owners say they have had issues with DDM without getting into specifics. I would like to hear what those issues are with DDM. Pros: cost and reliability (?). Cons: ? 2. Can someone clarify again please the low vs high-beam with these? The kit does not specify that it is low and high beam. Does that mean the way the Edge lights are built, the switch uses the same bulb but angles it higher for high beams? This is porbably a dumb question, but I just don't get it even after seeing a post on here about some magnetic swtich or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishx65 Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 If I was starting fresh, I would order two DDM kits for 80 bucks. It would be really easy to replace a bad bulb or ballast with your spares and then have DDM warranty the bad part. In my case, it was not fun putting the halogens back in and having to drive around the last month without Hids waiting for a new DDM kit. I had a ballast go bad after about 18 months. Been really happy with the output of the 9006 35/5000 kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carsick30 Posted January 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 If I was starting fresh, I would order two DDM kits for 80 bucks. It would be really easy to replace a bad bulb or ballast with your spares and then have DDM warranty the bad part. In my case, it was not fun putting the halogens back in and having to drive around the last month without Hids waiting for a new DDM kit. I had a ballast go bad after about 18 months. Been really happy with the output of the 9006 35/5000 kit. so bad ballasts potentially... what about the high beams? it uses same bulb as low beams? i guess i just can't register how it would not need a separate bulb for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlepse Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Headlamp assembly has a shield that moves...so high and low are the same bulb. If you listen you can hear it actuate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carsick30 Posted January 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Headlamp assembly has a shield that moves...so high and low are the same bulb. If you listen you can hear it actuate. Ah, got it. i can only imagine what that would cost to fix if out of warranty... Which then brings up a follow-up question: since the waterproff cap covers have toget drilled for the install, and HIDs are no longer OEM parts, can Ford say they will not cover surrounding and affiliated components under warranty (not the bulb/ballast onbviously, but other pieces) because of excessive heat/electrical load/etc.? Edited January 23, 2014 by carsick30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candurin Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 I've used both the DDM and TRS Kit (I've used DDM for well over 15 years in a half dozen different cars, ever since they were Apexcone). I've had some crap DDM kits and some that were bulletproof. Having said that, I would completely recommend the TRS kit over DDM any day (there service alone is worth the extra $$). I noticed you were in Montgomery county. I am in Malvern 4 - 5 times per month (and will be next week). I'd be glad to show you my HID setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlepse Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Ah, got it. i can only imagine what that would cost to fix if out of warranty... Which then brings up a follow-up question: since the waterproff cap covers have toget drilled for the install, and HIDs are no longer OEM parts, can Ford say they will not cover surrounding and affiliated components under warranty (not the bulb/ballast onbviously, but other pieces) because of excessive heat/electrical load/etc.? They can but I don't think I have ever heard of those shutters failing let alone under the 36k coverage. So I wouldn't be too concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carsick30 Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Are DDM Error Eliminators really needed on a 2011+ Edge? Anyone run without them and not gotten code flashing on dash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishx65 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Are DDM Error Eliminators really needed on a 2011+ Edge? Anyone run without them and not gotten code flashing on dash? They are not needed on your Edge. If you're interested in learning more about Hids, Hidplanet forums is a good place to spend some time. TRS (Morimoto) owns the website but they talk about all the brands including DDM. Lots of Internet cops on there that frown on putting Hids in halogen projectors but they really do work well in the Edge projectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carsick30 Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 They are not needed on your Edge. If you're interested in learning more about Hids, Hidplanet forums is a good place to spend some time. TRS (Morimoto) owns the website but they talk about all the brands including DDM. Lots of Internet cops on there that frown on putting Hids in halogen projectors but they really do work well in the Edge projectors. i figured as much. i saw posts that for morimotos you should get canbus harness, which is their version of DDM Error Eliminators i think. So, i assumed you have to have that with all kits. i agree that there is no problem with putting HID into halogen projectors as long as the kit is not complete garbage. I've done it as far back as I remember on all cars I've had without melting anything or killing oncoming innocent drivers by blinding them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIRROMMOTORSPORTS Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I have DDM 55w kits in all my vehicles and toys and have never had a problem with them other than 1 ballast going bad.. HOWEVER, DDM exchanged the ballast free of charge and I've yet to have another problem since in 3ish years that I've ran them. DDM Tuning offers a lifetime warranty if I'm not mistaking. I will continue to buy from DDM Tuning.. The ONLY downside is depending where you're located, it can take up to 2 weeks for delivery since they generally come from China if your not lucky enough to get a kit outta their California office. We have the 4500k 9006 55w kit on our Edge Sport. Lighting is crystal white, excellent lighting and the wife LOVES them. Check my pictures for examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carsick30 Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I have DDM 55w kits in all my vehicles and toys and have never had a problem with them other than 1 ballast going bad.. HOWEVER, DDM exchanged the ballast free of charge and I've yet to have another problem since in 3ish years that I've ran them. DDM Tuning offers a lifetime warranty if I'm not mistaking. I will continue to buy from DDM Tuning.. The ONLY downside is depending where you're located, it can take up to 2 weeks for delivery since they generally come from China if your not lucky enough to get a kit outta their California office. We have the 4500k 9006 55w kit on our Edge Sport. Lighting is crystal white, excellent lighting and the wife LOVES them. Check my pictures for examples. looks good. so, +1 vote for having a backup ballast handy. i'm assuming you didn't have to use their Error Eliminators either with your setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIRROMMOTORSPORTS Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 looks good. so, +1 vote for having a backup ballast handy. i'm assuming you didn't have to use their Error Eliminators either with your setup? No eliminator... Just need the 9006 and its a plug and play setup. Buying two kits isn't a bad idea actually since their quite a bit cheaper than the other kits out there. Thats what I did "should" I ever have a bulb or ballast ever go out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carsick30 Posted February 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Ordered and installed 6,000/55w kit. Wow, the difference is so drastic over OEM I might actually be able to see through solid objects with these. Surprisingly not getting high-beamed by oncoming traffic unless they are partially incapacitated by the insane brightness and become too disoriented to reach for the high beams. The problem I have is that the ballasts do not fit into the spaces designed for the OEM ballasts. I guess that's what you would expect from aftermarket, but just too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsto Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Im about to purchase the 55w/5000k setup from ddm and I'm wondering if i need anything else like the harness, error eliminator or adapter cables or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candurin Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 You'll want the harness with a 55W kit. That's a lot of stress on the factory wiring. But, be cautious as the DDM harness is crap (mine melted after only a week). You'll want to get a quality harness like one from TRS (Morimoto). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjsockett Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Is a harness needed or recommended on a 35w kit? Is 35w bright enough or are you better off going with a 55w kit and a harness? I must have had some really bad lights on my Saab because, unlike most, I actually find that the stock 9012 bulbs aren't that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddieandkat Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Hi. Ordered a 55w kit from DDM.. Still having a problem with the harness. Damn relay keeps buzzing when ever the lights are on. Put the lights in several days ago and havent used the Edge untill i find out what the issue is. DDM says check to see if you have DRL's. My Edge does not. Still at a loss..Emailed them with a new set of questions, Lets see what goes on. So i guess my only complaint is the buzzing relay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carsick30 Posted March 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 All I know is that even though everyone says get a harness I am running 55w/6000 with just plug and play without any issues for a couple of months now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Edge Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Hi. Ordered a 55w kit from DDM.. Still having a problem with the harness. Damn relay keeps buzzing when ever the lights are on. Put the lights in several days ago and havent used the Edge untill i find out what the issue is. DDM says check to see if you have DRL's. My Edge does not. Still at a loss..Emailed them with a new set of questions, Lets see what goes on. So i guess my only complaint is the buzzing relay... The relays are common enough at auto parts stores for about $20. You shouldn't have to spend the money on it but if you want to rule it out.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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