chocobear Report post Posted May 7, 2015 My 2013 Edge is having computer/software problems. If I turn on the wipers (with rain on windshield), the wipers do not turn off unless I stop the engine. The automatic light setting, also turns the lights on - and when I get into sunshine - they will not turn off, until I stop the engine. This started after a software update done by my local Ford dealer. We have tried another software update, but still have the same problems. The Ford dealer indicates that they can attempt to find the problem - at $100. per hour. They don't seem to have any clue what could be causing this. Has anyone experienced this type of computer/software issues ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
macbwt Report post Posted May 7, 2015 Your question really does not make sense. Everything is suppose to operate if the engine is running. Especially if you turned it on. You may wish to redefine you problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cv27 Report post Posted May 8, 2015 Your question really does not make sense. Everything is suppose to operate if the engine is running. Especially if you turned it on. You may wish to redefine you problem. I think what Chocobear is trying to say is that, yes, functions do activate as they should, but do not de-activate when they ought to (unless engine is turned off). From my understanding, for example, automatic lights will turn on while driving in a tunnel, but won't turn off after exiting, as they should. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waldo Report post Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) The most important question is which module got the software update? Both wipers and auto lights are controlled in the BCM, so I'd assume it's that one. If you turn the headlight switch to off, do the lights turn off. Do you only notice the "sticking" auto lamps when you're having the windshield wiper problem? Remember that if you have the auto lights turned on, they will stay on whenever the wipers are running. So if you're wipers won't shut off, the auto lights shouldn't shut off either. Edited May 8, 2015 by Waldo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chocobear Report post Posted May 8, 2015 Yes - the auto lamps sticking has only occurred when the wipers won't shut off. and Yes - the headlights will turn off by moving the lights to the off position instead of auto. I was reading another section of this site - and apparently the "switch" that controls the wipers on the steering column has created this same wipers won't shutoff issue. I think I will try changing the switch - to see if that solves the problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waldo Report post Posted May 8, 2015 Sounds like a good bet. Sounds like the problem with the lights isn't really a problem, they are just doing what they are supposed to since they think the wipers are still supposed to be on. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chocobear Report post Posted June 1, 2015 Changing the wiper arm with switch - appears to have solved the issue. It's a bit scary that there are so many sensors on the edge - that have already begun failing - and not under warranty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waldo Report post Posted June 1, 2015 What sensors are failing? Cars have had wiper stalks for decades, sometimes they go bad, nothing really new about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites