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Intermittent Squeak front drive side

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Hi All, I have a 2008 Ford Edge FWD with about 120K miles on it. The last 100 miles or so its developed a squak on the front driver side wheel. Its somewhat intermittent in that it will go away for a day at a time but always comes back soon enough.

 

Its a very rubbery squeak and it seems to be in tune with the wheel turning. Speeds up/down as the cars goes faster/slower. Once the car hits about 10-15 miles an hour it can't be heard any more. Sound is more likely to come when drifting/turning right but not always. Once it starts up, can be heard when going straight/left. But seems worse going right.

 

I've taken the wheel off and checks break pads, they still look fresh with no strange wear pattern. I happened the replace the lugnuts and the sound disappeared for about 7-10 days, but has since come back to normal.

 

Could the wheel/rim not be seated correctly? Could the ball bearings in the half shaft be rubbing against the rubber guard? I can't relate the noise to any specific event.

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Could be lots of stuff. its hard to tell without hearing it.

  • brakes
  • bearings
  • CV joint.

I'm thinking CV joint if it changes with direction. brake wear indicators also change noises when turning. Does it change when you are braking?.

you could try recording the noise and posting it.

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Not sure if its loud enough to record, let me try later on.

 

The brakes only have 8000 miles on the pads and took the pads off to check if something was pinned to the rotor. Braking doesn't really make it better or worse.

 

I'm hoping to lift it up and get both wheels off this weekend and see if I can replicate it in the air.

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Audio of my pulling up my drive way. Slow speed and was getting louder during braking. Car was basically rolling to a stop by the end.

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CV joint/boot? Did you try jacking up the wheels and turning them by hand?

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Broken sway bar link is rubbing your axle boot. Check the sway bar links.

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Broken sway bar link is rubbing your axle boot. Check the sway bar links.

 

First off, your videos rules, I think I have seen most of them. Secondly, from Davenport Iowa, and I'm rocking an orange edge. Not that I am a weird stalker! haha.

 

Checked both sway bars and they seem intact and sturdy. I hand checked everything from the wheel up the half shaft and nothing is loose or feels like it should make contact with the axle boot. I was going slow enough were it was mid-squek when the car came to a rest and nothing was touching at that time.

 

Next step is to jack up and see if I can replicate it in the air.

 

Something I noticed yesterday, I couldn't replicate the noise dropping the engine into low, not sure about neutral. After I hand checked everything this morning the noise wasn't as prominent. I replaced tie-rod ends and noticed they have a grease point, do you need to lubricate those? I put them on probably 2K miles ago (lubricated when replaced.

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A 2008 Orange Crush in Davenport, IA. No, that's not stalking at all ... LOL!

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A 2008 Orange Crush in Davenport, IA. No, that's not stalking at all ... LOL!

Grew up there, and only visited ocasionally. The crush now resides in GA

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We are up on jack stands and rolling with no tires. I can turn both ways without hearing any of the noise. There is definitely friction on the driver side axle. Occasionally you would see it lock up for a second and resume spinning, even when its spinning, it does look as smooth as the passenger side. I counted 10 revolutions on each side while rolling. Passenger was 13 seconds, driver was 14 seconds. But just after I finished counting it stopped completely for a few seconds.

 

Goes back to the old question, wheel bearings or CV axle. I see nothing that could be making contact with the boot on the axle

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A couple of shots of the cv axle.

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First off, your videos rules, I think I have seen most of them. Secondly, from Davenport Iowa, and I'm rocking an orange edge. Not that I am a weird stalker! haha.

 

Checked both sway bars and they seem intact and sturdy. I hand checked everything from the wheel up the half shaft and nothing is loose or feels like it should make contact with the axle boot. I was going slow enough were it was mid-squek when the car came to a rest and nothing was touching at that time.

 

Next step is to jack up and see if I can replicate it in the air.

 

Something I noticed yesterday, I couldn't replicate the noise dropping the engine into low, not sure about neutral. After I hand checked everything this morning the noise wasn't as prominent. I replaced tie-rod ends and noticed they have a grease point, do you need to lubricate those? I put them on probably 2K miles ago (lubricated when replaced.

Lube them

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A couple of shots of the cv axle.

Spray that dry boot with some silicon spray. Then drive it.

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I agree with Mac. If you look at your picture of the outside boot you can see where the folds are rubbing on each other. It may not be causing the noise but it's an easy thing to check out.

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I wanted to follow up as I finally found the problem if anyone else comes across this. Noise wasn't getting better or worse so I just kept putting up with it. Finally had enough and took it to a mechanic. Either they were stumped or they wanted to take me to the cleaners, but their recommendation was driver wheel bearing, and both CV's. But they did say nothing was in imminent danger.

 

This reignited my fire of finding the actual problem. Another hour of googling led me to an S2000 forum of someone complaining of a wompwompwompwomp sound at low speeds when not breaking. My excitement grew. Exactly my problem.

 

Loose axel nut.

 

Pick up a 36mm socket and tighten down with the breaker bar. Both nuts turned a bit more than 90 degrees with the breaker bar. Sound is completely gone and turning is noticeably tighter.

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Nice :thumbsup: A rash of fastener related issues lately ...

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