22CarbGrayElite Posted Wednesday at 08:56 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 08:56 PM (edited) 15 hours ago, Baby Boost said: I think you missed my point. Unless you have a 2023 or 2024 edge with the 350mm front rotor or the edge st performance brake package your edge has front vented rotors. They are absolutely terrible for cooling so yes with repeated or even one good high speed stop the rotors can start to pulsate through uneven deposits left on the rotors . That is commonly known as warping the rotors as the surface is no longer even and has undulations this is commonly known as "warped" but thanks for your corrections so helpful for this post. The whole point was everyone else with shitty front vented rotors can swap to this brake package for a small cost and this would provide most that are just daily driving with a great durability upgrade. If you look at the surface area and clamping force the stock calipers are plenty for the the edge the only issue is Ford trying to copy audi with some shitty rotor design they came up with to be different. I was pretty specific with my issue and the solution, I feel your comment adds very little value and I am glad someone else replied and rode right on top of you, it was cute. This post was to help everyone that doesn't have the st brake package upgrade to it for the additional cost of the brake shields. The fact that they don't need to change calipers in most cases is a bonus and the fact that you don't have to buy actual ford brake pads or Rotors to get the rear vented is also nice. But what you said is so much more important, thank you so much for your additional information about your buddy's audi. Edit: No personal attacks. That brake package is not impressive. I have the large vented front rotors on my Titanium along with the rear vented rotors. The caliper size is the same, but painted red. My daughter’s ‘22 SEL has the same brakes. I don’t know what the brake pad material is, maybe it is a semi metallic material that may offer better stopping power but maybe it leaves more dust to clean off your 21” wheels, that anyone can buy after the fact, or you could order on your Edge without the brake package. Summer performance tires might be great in the summer but winter? Yeah, no. So you either learn to drive a high performance sticky summer tire in the colder winter months or you swap wheels with a tire that is more appropriate for winter driving. The issue you were specific with was wanting to know if you could upgrade the stock Edge brakes with Nissan 370z parts. Then you commented about some Volvo parts possibly working. Then you go on about using the performance brake package parts to “upgrade” your brakes and solve whatever issue you were having. Then you get butthurt over the use of the word “warped” pertaining to pulsating rotors. Then you further get butthurt because I mention German cars with big Brembos up front, particularly my friend’s Audi I mention. The fact that most 21 - 24 Edges come with the bigger front rotors, vented rear rotors, and the same caliper sizes is half the battle. There isn’t much left to upgrade. If the cooled brake dust shields let you sleep better, more power to you. You bought a PowerStop OE equivalent rotor, a Carquest high carbon rotor and platinum brake pads. Congratulations! You probably bought better parts than the OE Motorcraft parts. After all, if they were that good, you would have bought them again, right? The fact that I test drive two low mileage Edges last year with “warped rotors” and after a few weeks mine are starting to pulsate, tells me that the OE Ford brake parts really aren’t that good of quality. You do you. You are entitled to your opinion and I am to mine. I endorsed your idea for a factory Brembo upgrade because I did just that on a car I own. You seem to be mad because more than one person stated that the performance brake package wasn’t all of that and that is the path you chose for your “upgrade”. Relax, it isn’t that serious. And to your comment about hating because we drive lesser Titaniums or SELs… 🤣 Edited Wednesday at 09:07 PM by 1004ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted Wednesday at 09:11 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 09:11 PM On 5/29/2026 at 10:29 PM, edjunior said: First, welcome to the forum. Now, why would you want to pursue all the Frankenstein parts for something that seems to work fine already? And how in the world did you find that Nissan and Volvo parts fit on a Ford car? Good luck with this, if you are able to find any info, or decide to pursue it on your own. I'm also not into the Frankenstein idea - I went with like for like from Centric just because of the higher carbon content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STBEAST Posted Saturday at 03:31 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 03:31 AM All I can say is I drove 2 different ST's before I bought mine. The first one did not have the performance brake and tire package. The second one did. In addition, it had the panoramic sunroof. Night and day on the braking. Could not believe the difference. Only when you have driven an ST with or without the package can you appreciate it. And of course, the one thing we can probably all agree on, sad to see the Edge go away. They finally got it to point where it was an amazing performance SUV. Then they stopped production. 😔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai Edge Posted Saturday at 03:36 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 03:36 PM (edited) My ST came with the panoramic sunroof, package 401A. No mention of the performance brake package in my documentation nor any painted rotors. I find my ST braking to be very good. It seems that the 2024 STBEAST Edge's increased braking, from the brake performance package, is most likely due to the sticky Pirelli tires that came with it, more than anything else. My alleged performance Hankook tires that originally came with the car were " eh " in the performance realm. I upgraded my tires to something much better, with wheels I preferred, for less money than the performance brake package offered at the time of sale in 2020. When we compare brake packages, or any other packages, we have to be comparing apples top apples, as they say. Edited Saturday at 03:38 PM by Samurai Edge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STBEAST Posted yesterday at 03:18 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:18 AM (edited) Samurai Edge. So, you are saying that you have no documentation that your 2020 ST has the brake package???? So, you really don't know what a difference the upgrade would have made to your ST....... Yes, the tires help. With tires, bigger is better. But I would let you know that the brakes also made a major difference. I drove both. The salesman was nice enough to let me have a little fun to feel the difference. The stopping power was much more aggressive, the handling was better, most likely to the larger stabilizer bars and sticky tires. Far from apples to apples. To wear the ST badge, this package should have been standard. The performance brake and tire package was one of the most important upgrades Ford offered to the ST. Edited yesterday at 11:01 AM by STBEAST more research was needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai Edge Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago (edited) I can't compare a 2020 ST to a 2024 ST, with or without an upgraded brake package, not without the actual delivery paperwork that comes on the car window at time of delivery to the customer. I have my original paperwork which does not say that it has the upgraded brake package. However, I carefully looked at what the 2020 ST upgraded brake package included. - Larger Wheels and Tires - 21" vs 20" but still the same alleged Hankook performance tires - which are not performance tires at all, at least in my book - Painted Red Calipers - same exact calipers as on the ST non-brake upgrade - Alleged different front brake rotors - Checking p/ns for both on the 2020 ST showed the same p/n - Alleged different front brake pads - Checking p/ns for both on the 2020 ST showed the same p/n And, yes, I did drive a 2020 ST with the upgraded brake package. I'm saying that it was the upgraded brake package because it had the red calipers. Aside from the fact that that this was a salesman's car, and that it stank from cigarette smoke so thick you could probably cut it with a knife, there was no difference in handling or braking between that car and my car at time of purchase. No mention on anything else. The selling dealer also did not specify anything else either, but I would not expect most salesman would know the difference. The wheel and tire package I purchased post-sale is a better package, for less money, than that offered at the time of my purchase. As we both know, vehicle manufacturers make changes to vehicle options all the time. Two back-to-back years could easily have differences between the two years on the exact same listed item. I can only speak to my car and I made that clear earlier. Edited 23 hours ago by Samurai Edge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22CarbGrayElite Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago 4 hours ago, Samurai Edge said: I can't compare a 2020 ST to a 2024 ST, with or without an upgraded brake package, not without the actual delivery paperwork that comes on the car window at time of delivery to the customer. I have my original paperwork which does not say that it has the upgraded brake package. However, I carefully looked at what the 2020 ST upgraded brake package included. - Larger Wheels and Tires - 21" vs 20" but still the same alleged Hankook performance tires - which are not performance tires at all, at least in my book - Painted Red Calipers - same exact calipers as on the ST non-brake upgrade - Alleged different front brake rotors - Checking p/ns for both on the 2020 ST showed the same p/n - Alleged different front brake pads - Checking p/ns for both on the 2020 ST showed the same p/n And, yes, I did drive a 2020 ST with the upgraded brake package. I'm saying that it was the upgraded brake package because it had the red calipers. Aside from the fact that that this was a salesman's car, and that it stank from cigarette smoke so thick you could probably cut it with a knife, there was no difference in handling or braking between that car and my car at time of purchase. No mention on anything else. The selling dealer also did not specify anything else either, but I would not expect most salesman would know the difference. The wheel and tire package I purchased post-sale is a better package, for less money, than that offered at the time of my purchase. As we both know, vehicle manufacturers make changes to vehicle options all the time. Two back-to-back years could easily have differences between the two years on the exact same listed item. I can only speak to my car and I made that clear earlier. I took it a step further and compared a ‘22 ST to my ‘22 Titanium on Rock Auto for brake parts. Most part numbers were the same across the board for calipers, pads and rotors. On some there was mention about the red calipers or brake package but if you pulled up both vehicles and went back and forth between the specs, most everything was identical. I was wondering if the brake package option had something more to offer but I don’t feel like it does, given it seems I have the biggest rotors available stock from Ford on it. Been looking for stainless hoses and haven’t found any for the ‘19-‘24 Edges. Can always have them made if need be. I have 20” Elite wheels on mine, but I like the 21” wheels more. Regardless, the previous owner put cheap Walmart tires on it and they are just that, cheap tires. I know better brand tires will help braking but I can’t run ultra HP summer only tires on it unless I buy a second set of wheels and switch them out. Haven’t ruled that out. I deal with cold winters, ice and snow so running a summer only tire year round is a no-go for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STBEAST Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago (edited) Interesting for all of us for sure. Mine came with the 21-inch Pirelli Pzeros. Awesome tires!! Definitely better with the 21s. Dealers pull a lot of switch and bait crap for sure! At the dealership, sitting side by side, mine looked so much better than the one without the package. I felt since I was buying an ST, I wanted it to look like an ST. The package made a big difference in overall performance of the vehicle. Ford tells you everything that is included in the upgrade. No need to compare. Well worth the money. Edited 9 hours ago by STBEAST 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 11 hours ago, STBEAST said: Mine came with the 21-inch Pirelli Pzeros. Awesome tires!! Definitely better with the 21s. After trying a couple of other brands I'm now back on the 21-inch Pirelli Pzeros and will be sticking with them for all round performance and mileage . I'm surprised, I thought all Sport and ST's standard equipment was 21". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai Edge Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago At the time of my purchase, the standard wheel size for an ST was 20" wheels, which are 8" wide. The same goes for the Edge Sport. The optional brake upgrade included the 21" wheels. I also found this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago If I remember correctly, all 2016-2018 Sports had 20" wheels as standard (polished & forged), with 21" wheels available as an option. 2019+ ST also had 20" wheels as standard. The 21" could be ordered as a standalone or as part of the brake upgrade package. Tire sizes were the same regardless of generation. 245/50R20 or 265/40R21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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