druck52

I have a set of 17's, where are you located?

I was responding to you. I guess I missread, but I thought you had said that the problem had returned. If it is fixed, that is what matters at this point.

Hi druck. :D I respect your opinion and you may very well be correct. If he would simply show a bit of gratitude once in a while, or at least skip the complaint-fests when provided information that is meant to help, things would be fine. I'm not saying you are wrong, just that he may be on the right track. Also I was not trying to disrespect you in any way. But unfortunately, just as you have been severely disrespected by a few wayward members who like to insult Techs in the past (remember when we PM'd each other?), Lex has had a habit of demonstrating unnecessary ingratitude to me (at this point I will only speak for myself, not others). I have never needed or asked for his assistance, but he has taken advantage of mine in some instances. Notice druck, that I have been very polite in speaking to you, and in describing my gripe with him. But in the past in circumstances such as this, I usually get attacked for my effort. I know you don't always get along. I think you both try to help people out, you just go about it in different ways. I do think he could have approached the situation in a different way. As I said druck, maybe he was on the correct path. However, it is his method that is rude and sometimes intolerable. And as you got tired when needlessly attacked in the past, I have reached that point also. You are a helpful forum member, and I respect you for it. And I hope your information helps too. That is all I was trying to do in the first place. I hope it helps as well, but it seems from lex's last post that he did not follow my directions at all. And those are straight from the shop manual. Oh well. I tried. Good luck. :beerchug: PS - And druck, I will ask you since you are a Tech: The passage in the Owners Manual stating that "If the power liftgate is opening, the system will stop and a chime will sound 3 times when an obstacle is detected. Once the obstacle is removed, the liftgate can again be operated normally" would lead me to believe that could be another possible cause. If something is blocking the gate from fully opening (a bent lift arm perhaps), the chime will sound three times. Or possibly if a sensor is giving a false reading, the same symptoms would occur. Just Internet diagnosing, what are your thoughts? You could very well be right, but with out looking at the vehicle in question, that would just be a guess.

Here is something for you all to try. I haven't had a vehicle come in with this complaint yet so I don't know if it will work. This is a copy from the workshop manual as per the symptom chart for this concern. Power Liftgate Initialization Printable View (79 KB) NOTE: The power liftgate may not operate correctly under the following conditions: A low voltage or dead battery A disconnected battery Repairs/adjustments have been made to the power liftgate rod, power liftgate motor, liftgate hinges or liftgate striker If any of these conditions has occurred, the power liftgate must be reinitialized. NOTE: Battery power must be removed from the Liftgate/Trunk Module (LTM) for 20 seconds before the LTM will enter the initialization mode. Disconnect the battery or remove the LTM fuse(s). Wait 20 seconds and reconnect the battery or reinstall the LTM fuse(s). Manually close and fully latch the power liftgate. NOTE: Make sure the power liftgate system is turned ON in the message center before performing this step. NOTE: If the power liftgate does not open during this step, refer to the Symptom Chart to diagnose the power liftgate for no operation. Power open the power liftgate by using the key fob or control switch. Once the power liftgate is fully open, close the power liftgate by using the key fob or control switch. bbf, I know you are trying to help, but it sounds like lex was heading in the right dirrection. Hope this helps.

The parking brake shoes probably just need to be adjusted out some.

That was not ment for you, it was ment for the guy with the problem with taking your car to a dealership. Sorry if you thought i was replying to you.

I shouldn't get involved, but I have been reading his replies and can't take all the wrong information anymore. He says fwd or awd are flawed and unsafe. The following is a quote from his link. " In a rear-wheel drive vehicle, you can usually feel a loss of traction or the beginning of a skid. There may be no such warning in a front-wheel drive, however. Front-wheel drives do handle better in ice and snow, but they do not have flawless traction, and skids can occur unexpectedly. Don't let the better feel and handling of a front-wheel drive car cause you to drive faster than you should." Doesn't that contradict what he has been telling us? I wonder what his reply for that will be?

they will fit

All the chrome bits in the normal tail lamps are black on the sport. That is the only difference. I do think they look much better though.

What is your problem with taking it to a dealership. What will you do when your independent shop can't fix the problem. Dealerships are not a ripoff as you say. There are good ones and bad ones sure, but there are good and bad independent shops as well. Also the dealership will tell you if it is covered or not.

And exactly how do you know that it is there. Have you taken an Edge apart? If you have then why don't you explain exactly were it is.

You may be completely wrong. If the sensor has on open then it is not reading at all and can not send a false signal. we do not know the exact diag though and should not coment either way.

I know they are trying to fix the problem. They have the new double seal kit out. And yes it is a hard fix. But unfortunatly only time will tell if this is perminant. The post was ment for garyedwardsmith to show that Ford's quality is just as good as any other car company and better than most. And just to add to that, I am a Tech at a dealership and have only seen a handfull of Edge's come in for that concern. So it is not as bad as he likes to think.

Ford's quality is so bad, that is ranks only 1 point behind toyota. They are having problems with the seals, but are trying to fix them. This just shows that Ford's quality is really good, and Toyota's isn't as great as you might think. All manufactors run into this sort of problem. I know you won't care what the report says, but it is something to think about. http://autos.aol.com/article/jd-power-initial-quality-2009

Were can you pick them up for 615?

Just keep working them, but be carefull. You have to get them off. You should not need to heat them. They should come off with a little prying.

He doesn't need to remove the screws for the latch if he is just taking off the cover.

You have to removed the plugs to access the bolts that hold the window to the window regulator. once those are loose, raise the window and tape it up out of the way. then remove all the bolts that hold that panel on. after that lift it out at the bottom and then down. it should come out. I think you might have to remove some wiring and maybe the door handle, but i don't remember off the top of my head.

nope, you didn't read that anywhere

Just curious why you are responding to a post from over a year ago?

On new cars you don't. You would have to add a proportioning valve yourself. It does not come with one.

The tick noise is the injectors and is normal. There is nothing that can be done about that.

I'm curious, were do you come up with your information. I can't believe how many of your posts on here are just plain wrong. There is no proportioning valve on the edge, or any new ford for that mater. You really should not be giving out advise that is so wrong. He may have a bad caliper causing the problem or he may be hard on his brakes. The only way to know what is wrong is to have it inspected.

I was just letting you know to try and help. Maybe I shouldn't have said anything.

There is a new seal kit and new procedure to perform that ford just put out. Hopefully that will help all the people that are having this problem.