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Not really a complaint, but an observation...

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We've had our Edge Titanium now for not quite a year, and I must say, of all the vehicles I've owned over my lifetime, it is the smoothest, most pleasant car/SUV/crossover/whatever I've driven. Great power for the vehicle/engine combination (2.0 Eco-boost in a fairly large vehicle).

The one thing that kind bugs me is... from the outside, it sounds like a frickin' tractor! Inside, it's quiet... outside, it's like sitting next to an idling John Deere... certainly not in keeping with a almost, near luxury, interstate cruiser.

I checked for leaks, like maybe a noisy waterpump, or loose tin, anything that might make such a noise... no joy, can find anything. Any thoughts, or am I just being over-sensitive? Maybe I just need to turn m

y hearing aids down...

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Have you checked your engine oil? If it's not to the 2nd hole, it's not full & can cause some noises like you describe. Let the car sit for 20-30 minutes & then check it, most places just check it nearly immediately after shut down & doesn't give an accurate reading. Let the oil pool back to the pan from the turbo & cooler & such.

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Is the engine cover missing? The high pressure fuel pump cover?

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It's made this racket since we bought it, it's been in for service regularly and no mention of low oil levels have been mentioned.

The engine cover is in place, but it could very likely be the high pressure injectors clattering. This is the first car I've owned with direct injection, so I'll see if I camn isolate the noise to the top end of the engine.

The noises don't seem to affect the performance, so maybe it's just a normal engine sound.

Thanks for the ideas... I'll definitely check both possible sources, just to make sure.

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I test drove a 2016 Titanium with the 2.0 and noticed the same noise. The sales person said it was the the design/operation of the injectors. I opted to purchase a 2016 Edge Sport with the 2.7L and no issues with the engine sound from the outside. Quite a bit more HP/Torque with the 2.7 - 315/350 and a 3.19 rear axle ratio. More dollars too but happy with the purchase.

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It's the direct injection - almost all DI cars have a pronounced ticking sound but you can only hear it from the outside. My Fusion 2.0LEB is exactly the same. It's normal.

 

I wonder what they did on the 2.7L to eliminate it?

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Might sound offthewall (no pun intended), but you can try adding 1 oz of Marvel Mystery Oil per 5 gallons of fuel to the gas tank. That and Amsoil Signature oil are the 2 items I know from a reliable source work to quiet down these Ecoboost engines.

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It's made this racket since we bought it, it's been in for service regularly and no mention of low oil levels have been mentioned.

Not trying to sound mean or trying to be an prick, but dealers aren't always the best place to trust for service. Especially if you don't know jack about cars. Most oil changes/maintenance items at the dealership are done by the lowest of the low techs. You're not going to have your top tech doing an oil change or rotating tires at $30/hr (or whatever) when you can get a noob to do it for $8 or less. They're going to put enough oil in to get in the middle of the dipstick. They usually don't fill it up to the top. 1 Reason being that to properly check the oil in a ecoboost, you need to let it sit for 15-20 minutes to get an accurate reading. 2, it cuts into their profits. Lets just say that your car takes 5 qts & they put in 4.5 qts. Over 30 cars, that adds up. It's still not technically a problem, but that's just 1 example. My mom took her '12 fusion all the time to do tire rotations, etc & pretty much 75% of her lugs need to be replaced as they have been over torqued with an impact gun without a torque stick.

 

I only trust a few people/places to work on my vehicles.' Usually' small independent shops are going to care more than dealerships because they want to retain their customer base. Obviously, you can argue both sides, but more often than not, people who don't know the basics about their vehicles, get taken advantage of.

 

Oil changes are quite simple & once you see what is involved, you'll wonder why you haven't been doing them yourself. Dealerships/Service Centers are there to make money & maximize profits wherever they can.

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Frankly, I've always rather liked the sound of a '54 Farmall Super HTA. :hat_tip:

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On 7/11/2017 at 9:38 AM, WWWPerfA_ZN0W said:

Might sound offthewall (no pun intended), but you can try adding 1 oz of Marvel Mystery Oil per 5 gallons of fuel to the gas tank. That and Amsoil Signature oil are the 2 items I know from a reliable source work to quiet down these Ecoboost engines.

 Wait.... You can dump oil inside the gas tank? Really? Won't that do long term damage? 

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MMO is an old name, perhaps Mystery Fluid will soothe the senses better :)  Even transmission fluid is simply a lighter version of engine oil.  And no, in the specified ratio, MMO does no harm.

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1 minute ago, WWWPerfA_ZN0W said:

MMO is an old name, perhaps Mystery Fluid will soothe the senses better :)  Even transmission fluid is simply a lighter version of engine oil.  And no, in the specified ratio, MMO does no harm.

So you can dump that mystery oil straight inside the gas tank? That's what you are saying? What are the benefits? 

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3 minutes ago, WWWPerfA_ZN0W said:

Yes, it is a general purpose cleaner, regular use helps prevent varnish buildup.  You can read about the benefits on their website:

http://www.marvelmysteryoil.com/

 

Wow. Had no idea you can do that. Always thought gas means gas and nothing else. Wonder if it will help with Mt P0456 code. Lol. Yeah right! 

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