edsasdelli Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 I have a 2015 Edge Sport with OEM 21s. I need tires and was thinking about dropping down to 20's before I replace my 21s. Does anybody have comparison experience with driving 20 vs 21. Is the ride noticeably different? Is it worth the cost of getting new rims? Love to hear feedback from those that have done it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 There is only ONE all season tire right now for the 21” wheels - Pirelli Scorpion Verde. Luckily they’re not too expensive ($210 or so plus mounting) but no other options and I don’t see tire mfrs jumping on that size. I just put a new set on our 2016 MKX at 23K. Old ones had tread left it had gotten really noisy. You have far more options on the 20” wheels but of course you have to buy new wheels. I don’t think there is a big difference in ride quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots57 Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) My 16 Sport came new with the 20's and all-seasons then I bought the 21's afterwards. I certainly notice the ride was softer on the 20's but then again I also put summer performance tires on my 21's. And there is definitely more than one all-season option in 21" but in general they are always a bit more expensive than their 20" counterpart. You could probably get a decent deal on a used set of 20" wheels if you are willing to go that way. If you don't mind softening up the ride some, you will definitely save money buying 20" tires over the long run, and you can get almost any tire in 245/55-20 Edited March 6, 2018 by roots57 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 The only other all season option I could find for 21” was another Pirelli Scorpion which just showed up in the last month or so. I could find no others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Check with your local Ford dealer and see if they would interested in trading sizes for one of the used ones on their lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots57 Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Bridgestone and Continental both make an all-season in 265/45-21 Still more expensive than the 20" versions of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Bridgestone and Continental both make an all-season in 265/45-21 Still more expensive than the 20" versions of course Sorry but they don’t. Continental has 4 - they’re all summer tires. Bridgestone has no tires in that size. http://www.continentaltire.com/tire-search?mode=tire&sw=265&ar=40&rd=21 https://www.bridgestonetire.com/catalog?trimPath=/content/data/bridgestone/consumer/vehicles/2016/lincoln/mkx/reserve-alt-size-1&tpms=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 It’s 265/40r21 not 45. And they don’t make a 265/45/21 either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
037 Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 I got a set of 265/40/21 stock tires I am willing to trade for used tires same size with at least 5/32 tread plus $. I use winter and summer tires but need to return A/S at lease end. NYC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots57 Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 Shit, I don't know how I messed up the size, I've bought 21" tires 3 times for mine lol...I'll keep looking for another a/s option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Are you sure you didn’t get summer tires? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots57 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 I've always bought summer tires, but when I was looking for different all-season options in 21-inch, I somehow messed up aspect ratio from 40 to 45 by accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edsasdelli Posted March 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 I've always bought summer tires, but when I was looking for different all-season options in 21-inch, I somehow messed up aspect ratio from 40 to 45 by accident. Do you think a 45 would fit on Edge Sport? it's about an inch taller, same width. I would like a little more sidewall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 It should fit but it will be about 1 inch taller and 3 inches longer in circumference which is about a 4% difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots57 Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 265/45-21 shouldn't have any clearance issues, especially if you haven't lowered it. Your odometer will be off a bit, but in a good way. You will effectively be travelling 3.4% further than what your odometer is reading. And there are a lot more all-season options in that size. The size difference is almost negligible, even the stock 245/50-20 tires are 29.8" in diameter, that is almost 1/2" larger than the 21" tire. If you really want a different all-season tire, this may be your best bet, especially if you don't mind the slightly taller sidewall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlancer Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) Do you think a 45 would fit on Edge Sport? it's about an inch taller, same width. I would like a little more sidewall. Running 275/45-21 Verdes on mine for that exact reason. The 40 series on the 21"s looked slightly out of proportion to my eye. Had to use a spacer or they would just barely rub on the bottom of the strut mount. 265/45's *should* fit, but might be close. Using a 5mm spacer currently, 3mm probably would work. Stock springs right now, but have the HR's in the box ready to go on. Wheel wells should be filled nicely Spedo is still very close. Vehicle vs. GPS @ 60mph is 62. Ride feels close to the same, after the HRs should be a little more rigid than stock. Edited March 14, 2018 by redlancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 They talked about larger tires over in the 150 forum, threw off OEM navigation. Nav units telling them to turn AFTER he passed his turn. It then recalculated the route. One fella recommended disconnecting the battery for 20 minutes, then take it out for a drive. Said his friend's odometer was off (reading slow) and the truck relearned the new tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edsasdelli Posted March 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 RedLancer: When you stepped up to 45 sidewall did you note if the ride (comfort not handling) was improved? or not really noticeable? Thanks Ed Running 275/45-21 Verdes on mine for that exact reason. The 40 series on the 21"s looked slightly out of proportion to my eye. Had to use a spacer or they would just barely rub on the bottom of the strut mount. 265/45's *should* fit, but might be close. Using a 5mm spacer currently, 3mm probably would work. Stock springs right now, but have the HR's in the box ready to go on. Wheel wells should be filled nicely Spedo is still very close. Vehicle vs. GPS @ 60mph is 62. Ride feels close to the same, after the HRs should be a little more rigid than stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlancer Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 RedLancer: When you stepped up to 45 sidewall did you note if the ride (comfort not handling) was improved? or not really noticeable? Thanks Ed Probably a touch softer. My guess is as the driver you would notice a subtle difference, passengers maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Out of curiosity, anyone weighed the Sport 20" & 21" wheels/tires? Are the 21" heavier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Looked on tirerack.Com. Choose same tire brand/model in both sizes, 20" was 32 lbs, 21" was 34 lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 Thanks enigma, thought about that, but the Edge's 20" & 21" wheels are completely different designs. Tire wise, since they have different models, they have the same weight (34 lbs). The 21" tire in the Edge's size should be heavier, but the Perelli Scorpion Verde All Season 21" actually ways the same as the Hankook Ventus S1 Nobble2 20". The Pirrelli in 20" weighs 32 lbs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 I assumed the same brand/style wheel, the larger will weigh more of course. And, It's not possible to judge one design or brand with another properly. What I posted was a comparison of tire weights using the 245/50/20 & 265/40/21 sizes; both were the Perelli Scorpion Verde All Season. (Compares apples-to-apples based on size alone). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
037 Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 21" setup is 72lb per corner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 037, that is with the stock Pirelli tires? That's heavier than what I expected. TireRack specs for the Perelli tire has the weight as 34 lbs, meaning the wheel weighs 38 lbs! https://m.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp?tireMake=Pirelli&tireModel=Scorpion+Verde+All+Season&partnum=64VR1SVASXL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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