Mwalsh327 Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 Hey guys, I have a 2008 Ford Edge SE that won't start anymore. Before the vehicle stopped starting I could hear the starter being very labored starting (took a few extra milliseconds for the vehicle to kick over). Eventually a few days later it stopped starting completely, when I put the key in the ignition and try to start it, nothing, no clicking, everything else worked, lights, radio, etc., easy fix it's the starter I thought. I took it to my mechanic and he concurred and he put in a new starter and for a day and a half it was great, she had such a smooth start up. Then BAM, stopped working again, same exact problem, put the key in to start and nothing. It's back at the shop now, he believes it is a computer issue. Just wondering if anyone else might have had this issue, or have any other thoughts on what the problem could possibly be? As always, appreciate the help and feedback. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evh Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 How old is the battery and was it tested??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWizard Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 You don't mention having it towed so I assume it started with a boost and you were able to drive it to the shop. That would make the battery the obvious first thought. Even if it's relatively new, having it load tested would be a good idea because sometimes even new batteries fail. They can even show a full charge on a meter yet not be able to crank the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mwalsh327 Posted September 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 Battery is relatively new, it was changed about 2 years ago if that. My brother-in-law gave it a boost before I took it to the shop, once there when I turned off the vehicle it didn't start again. I'll call the shop and recommend having the battery load tested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 Battery is relatively new, it was changed about 2 years ago if that. My brother-in-law gave it a boost before I took it to the shop, once there when I turned off the vehicle it didn't start again. I'll call the shop and recommend having the battery load tested. Ask a place like AutoZone to do a load test on the battery - if the battery passes have them check the charging system, and do the same if the battery is replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 2 years is not relatively new nowadays where batteries rarely last more than 3 years. Beware of any load test that doesn't check CCAs against the battery rating. Might be better to invest in a Solar BA7 tester yourself - easy to use and not too expensive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evh Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) My battery lasted 3 years and died (Michigan). It ran fine then just quit. A jump it and got it started and then died again (i.e. I stopped the car and tried to start and it was dead). I'm betting it is your battery. I'll take "Dead Battery" for $500 Alex... Edited September 27, 2018 by evh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mwalsh327 Posted September 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 I called the shop to ask that they run a load test on it and to ensure that it checks the CCA against what is listed on the battery. When I called a few days ago he mentioned it could be a computer issue with the vehicle, does that sound plausible to anyone? When I get a reply back from the shop I will let you guys know what happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 That’s the generic term for “I don’t know what it is”. It could be a PATS issue not reading the key but that would have nothing to do with slow starting. Could be 2 issues though - low battery and PATS. Should be pretty easy to diagnose though if he knows what he’s doing. If not take it to a Ford dealer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mwalsh327 Posted September 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 (edited) That’s the generic term for “I don’t know what it is”. It could be a PATS issue not reading the key but that would have nothing to do with slow starting. Could be 2 issues though - low battery and PATS. Should be pretty easy to diagnose though if he knows what he’s doing. If not take it to a Ford dealer. Yea, I don't think it's the key like you said, cause he called a few days ago about bringing up my spare key, which I did, cause he believed the key could be corrupt in some way I assume. The spare key didn't work as well. I appreciate the feedback and when I get the issue resolved I'll be sure to post. Edited September 28, 2018 by Mwalsh327 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 Sometimes the PATS receiver near the ignition fails to recognize any keys so that would affect both keys, but I think the blinking red light on the dash would tell you if that was the case or not - can't remember exactly. I'm still betting battery. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 I'll take "Dead Battery" for $500 Alex... "And the answer is, what size shoe was the engineer wearing who drove the train that delivered the load of dead batteries to the supplier"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mwalsh327 Posted September 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2018 Sometimes the PATS receiver near the ignition fails to recognize any keys so that would affect both keys, but I think the blinking red light on the dash would tell you if that was the case or not - can't remember exactly. I'm still betting battery. Another question for you if you don't mind. When the starter was replaced the car started about 1/2 dozen times (over a 2 day period), is it fair to assume that the battery had enough juice in her to kick the starter over those 6 times? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 29, 2018 Report Share Posted September 29, 2018 Maybe the old starter was going bad causing the battery to weaken. The new starter required less juice so it worked a few times before the battery gave out completely. Just a guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 29, 2018 Report Share Posted September 29, 2018 Look at it this way - a battery is relatively cheap and very easy to replace and you won’t have to worry about it for another 3 years. I’d say it’s worth a shot and if nothing else it rules out the battery going forward. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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