CV Fabrication FMIC

[TylerAxis88]

Hey guys, 

 

I ordered a CV Fab FMIC 2 days ago and it arrives today. A lot of the Explorer ST guys love their products and have a great quality reputation and good performance gains. I used a discount code at checkout and got the intercooler for less than $550.

 

I will post pics once I receive it and should be placing the FMIC next month as me and my family are traveling a lot this October.

 

Here is a link for the product. I am not affiliated with CV fab.- but I genuinely feel this is a great product, the customer service, and shipping was very quick. They had stated that if sales with the intercooler do well,  they will produce more parts for this platform. 

https://www.cvfab.com/collections/19-23-2-7l-ford-edge-st-intercoolers-and-piping/products/cvf-performance-intercooler-2019-2023-ford-edge-st-2015-2023-ford-edge-sport-lincoln-nautilus

 

[TylerAxis88]

Well I just got home and the intercooler was delivered! Shipping was very quick. I ordered Wednesday and it’s here already. Packaging was great as well.

 

the intercooler is massive compared to OEM and it’s looks absolutely beautiful. Welds and construction look great. Can’t wait to get this installed. Now I just gotta figure out what to do with the lower IC grill. 
 

[txaggie]

Please update us on your install with pics and such 

[DistractedDev]

One of these is on my list. I do wonder how it compares to the UP IC, but for my use either are probably fine. I just picked up a used 2019 ST and I want to be sure any existing issues are addressed before adding "mods".

[Jonnymerk]

On 10/16/2023 at 1:51 PM, DistractedDev said:

One of these is on my list. I do wonder how it compares to the UP IC, but for my use either are probably fine. I just picked up a used 2019 ST and I want to be sure any existing issues are addressed before adding "mods".

The other i/c uses a garrett core and advertisers slightly cooler air temps.  Could account for the price difference maybe?  I ordered one of Unleashed and it definitely squeezes in their.

[Perblue]

When I logged temps for a while with the stock IC and then logged temps with my UP IC i had temps as much as 70F cooler.

[TylerAxis88]

So Ramfab no longer makes the cold side charge pipe but a guy DTFabworks does. It looks a lot nicer than the Ramfab, less welds, and fro lm other ST users the say it is better quality and lighter than the Ramfab version. 
 

here is a photo: 1.5-2 week build to delivery time.

 

[Jonnymerk]

DTP fab is offering the lower portion of the cold side in 2.5" still.  I believe might be building a few this week.

[TylerAxis88]

On 11/13/2023 at 9:56 AM, Jonnymerk said:

DTP fab is offering the lower portion of the cold side in 2.5" still.  I believe might be building a few this week.

Yes, I meant DTP Fab. He did say he had a few to make and ordered all the material on Saturday. So hopefully by thanksgiving I will get it in and have it powder coated. 

[razziel24]

please update us with pics and performance gains, this is on my list

[razziel24]

bump

 

any installation pics or performance gains update ?   thanks

[Samurai Edge]

There are plenty of pictures of the installed CVF front mount intercooler  ( FMIC ), and install instructions on-line.  You just have to do a search.

 

As far as performance gains, the purpose of the FMIC is not for a performance gain, not directly.  The purpose of the FMIC is to keep the charge temp into the intake cooler, for a longer period of time.  If you want performance gains, then there are multiple " bolt-on "pathways to get there.

  1. Performance Tune

  2. Larger Turbos

  3. Increased Fuel Flow

  4. Larger Exhaust

 

Some of the above options require for them to be used together

 

[razziel24]

Ive seen some FMIC vendors claiming up to 40 degrees air temp reduction with their products.

 

As far as I know... A 40-degree drop could theoretically provide a 3–4% bump in raw potential power just from the air density alone.

Also when intake air is hot, the risk of pre-ignition increases significantly. To prevent the engine from destroying itself, the ECU will retard the ignition timing.

By dropping the temp by 40 degrees, the engine can run more aggressive timing, which is where the most significant felt horsepower gains come from.

 

A few years ago I had a 2010 335i, and just by upgrading the FMIC without any ECU tuning, my "butt dino" felt gains of 15 to 20 hp.

 

So thats why I want to know, how this FMIC is performing on the ST, but I guess the OP is not reading this anymore   

I would be great to have his feedback.

 

 

[Samurai Edge]

First of all, you realize this post started 2 1/2 years ago.  Many people on many different forums, post questions and never return.  They think they get their answer and stop.

 

" Butt Dynos " are meaningless but if you think you feel something, there may be something to it.

 

There are many reports on-line, either on this forum or the internet on people's impressions of larger FMICs installed, including the CVF Performance FMIC, either on this forum or on-line.  You just have to do a search and see what they say.  Just remember, only pay attention to those reports where the only thing they changed was the FMIC and nothing else.

 

Also remember that a " 3–4% bump in raw potential power " is meaningless in the overall power increase.

Example:  300HP Advertised ( which is not the same as actual HP at the wheels ).  Take 3-4%  of that and you are looking at 3 - 4 HP total increase maybe.  Now, add in a powertrain loss of 20-25% and what does that leave you with in overall gains?

 

0.75 - 1.0 HP  total increase, at best

Edited 1 hour ago by Samurai Edge