JCrew7384 Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 Does the Edge not have a 180 degree rear camera? My 2016 Explorer had this, it was great for backing out of my driveway. Anyway to enable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pintokid Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 I'm pretty sure every new car has it now as required by law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backup_camera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 On 12/20/2018 at 1:49 PM, JCrew7384 said: Does the Edge not have a 180 degree rear camera? My 2016 Explorer had this, it was great for backing out of my driveway. Anyway to enable? explorer never had a 180 degree REAR camera, only Front camera's are 180. and yes edge does too. on front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 35 minutes ago, Nick Halstead said: explorer never had a 180 degree REAR camera, only Front camera's are 180. and yes edge does too. on front The 2016 Explorer got the rear split view camera with washer. It was disappointing that Ford did not implement both features on the Edge. Also Nick, please notice that @JCrew7384 was referring to this feature on his own Explorer that he personally used. It was not highlighted a lot as most of the talk was about the Front Camera, but it is there. This is from the 2016 Explorer Brochure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, omar302 said: The 2016 Explorer got the rear split view camera with washer. It was disappointing that Ford did not implement both features on the Edge. Also Nick, please notice that @JCrew7384 was referring to this feature on his own Explorer that he personally used. It was not highlighted a lot as most of the talk was about the Front Camera, but it is there. This is from the 2016 Explorer Brochure: my bad, I stopped two pages up where it talks about the front due to the game being one, usually click next to see all results on pdfs....ooppps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCrew7384 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 11 hours ago, Nick Halstead said: my bad, I stopped two pages up where it talks about the front due to the game being one, usually click next to see all results on pdfs....ooppps That's correct, the rear on my Explorer has 180 degree camera. I find it incredibly useful for backing out of spots, driveways, etc, actually more useful than a 180 degree front camera, mostly because it turns itself on automatically and it was just a quick hard button click away from making it 180 degree mode. The front camera never really helped me see any better than I already could out the windows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 The 180 front camera is most useful when there is an obstruction on one or both sides as you're leaving a parking spot or driveway going forward. Doesn't happen a lot but when it does there is no substitute other than having a passenger get out and look both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie1073 Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 It has 360 degrees worth of cameras if you get that option. It is not standard. The camera is not on the front unless you get the package. It is in the 401A package on the ST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCrew7384 Posted January 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 44 minutes ago, jamie1073 said: It has 360 degrees worth of cameras if you get that option. It is not standard. The camera is not on the front unless you get the package. It is in the 401A package on the ST. I don’t think the edge has a 360 degree surround view option does it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie1073 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 46 minutes ago, JCrew7384 said: I don’t think the edge has a 360 degree surround view option does it This is the option on the ST, it also should be available on the Titanium and maybe the SEL. Front 180-Degree Camera with Split View and Washer. I know there is a front grill camera on the 401A package but not on the 400A which I have, I do have a camera mounted in front of the rear view mirror but that is for the auto high beam, lane assist, and braking assist I think. Googling the camera gets you to this page https://newatlas.com/ford-split-view-camera-see-around-corners/38182/ Now you have me wondering if the rear view does the tri pane view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCrew7384 Posted January 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 hours ago, jamie1073 said: This is the option on the ST, it also should be available on the Titanium and maybe the SEL. Front 180-Degree Camera with Split View and Washer. I know there is a front grill camera on the 401A package but not on the 400A which I have, I do have a camera mounted in front of the rear view mirror but that is for the auto high beam, lane assist, and braking assist I think. Googling the camera gets you to this page https://newatlas.com/ford-split-view-camera-see-around-corners/38182/ Now you have me wondering if the rear view does the tri pane view. That article references "backing out" but I am pretty sure the Edge does not have the split view in reverse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 The Edge has a regular (single View) rear camera. Even the 2019. Unfortunately the split view (180 degree) camera is not yet available for the rear. it is for the front only when equipped with a front camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCrew7384 Posted January 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 10 hours ago, omar302 said: The Edge has a regular (single View) rear camera. Even the 2019. Unfortunately the split view (180 degree) camera is not yet available for the rear. it is for the front only when equipped with a front camera. Why do you suppose they made that specific design decision? Certainly the tech is there. My '16 Explorer has a split view in the rear AND the front. It is fantastic for backing out of spaces... And is not less effective on a smaller car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Probably cost cutting. Same reason Edge and Nautilus use the same engines and the 2.3 and 3.0 EBs are not available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 I'd also say it is like what akirby stated, cost cutting. But I think it started with the fact that the tech 1st came in 2016 and at that time the new generation Edge had already been introduced, in other words it missed the tech, but they should have added it in the refresh (2019). Another reason might be the fact that the Explorer is designed with police duty in consideration and they do have a sort of rear surveillance system. I wish we could find a lens of sort that can be put on the rear camera that would widen the view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie1073 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Yeah it would be nice for the rear since the front is an option on the 2019. Strange that they did not put one in the refresh, especially since they put the rear washer model on it. Oh well. I still look anyway and only use the camera as a reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 6 hours ago, jamie1073 said: I still look anyway and only use the camera as a reference. The issue is that if your parked next to a large vehicle (SUV, Pickup ...etc.) your view would be blocked until you are half way backed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, omar302 said: The issue is that if your parked next to a large vehicle (SUV, Pickup ...etc.) your view would be blocked until you are half way backed up. Doesn’t it have cross traffic alert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, akirby said: Doesn’t it have cross traffic alert? Yes it does. But then you'll have to look at the side view mirrors or the instrument cluster to know which side the vehicle is coming from and wait to see if it is a true warning. The rear cross traffic alert is not really that reliable, had it on the MKX & now on the Edge and could never trust it. They should have at least added indicators on the rear camera view so you'll know whci side the alert is from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCrew7384 Posted January 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 8 hours ago, omar302 said: Yes it does. But then you'll have to look at the side view mirrors or the instrument cluster to know which side the vehicle is coming from and wait to see if it is a true warning. The rear cross traffic alert is not really that reliable, had it on the MKX & now on the Edge and could never trust it. They should have at least added indicators on the rear camera view so you'll know whci side the alert is from. EXACTLY!!!! I feel much safer backing out with my 16 Explorer than with a 19 Edge... Cross traffic alert doesn't catch non-vehicle issues as well. People. Shopping carts, kids on bikes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Well obviously the 180 degree camera is better but cross traffic worked fine on my 2013 Fusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWizard Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 I rented a Cadillac XT5 over the holidays (it was an "upgrade"). It had the cross traffic alerts as well as a parking aid that would let you know when you were too close to an obstruction when parking. But it was configured to vibrate the driver's seat cushion as an alert. When backing out, it vibrates the side of the seat that corresponds to the side with approaching traffic. It's incredibly annoying! I would much rather have just an alert beep and have to look for the cross traffic instead of this thing giving me an unexpected massage. I really appreciate the concept of cross traffic alert but the implementation needs to be much better. And don't even get me started on other electronic "nannies" that they are forcing on us (automatic emergency braking for one). If included, they should be optional or at least capable of being disabled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 I think some of you need to focus back on driving basics and not relying on technology to get you out of every situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Nick Halstead said: I think some of you need to focus back on driving basics and not relying on technology to get you out of every situation. It's 2000, you're by yourself and you have to back out from between 2 large trucks into oncoming traffic. Whatchagonnado? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCrew7384 Posted January 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Nick Halstead said: I think some of you need to focus back on driving basics and not relying on technology to get you out of every situation. That's not the point... Why go backwards in technology... Are you arguing that a non-180 degree rear camera is better than a 180 degree rear camera? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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