Using nonethenol gas

[2017 SLE FORD EDGE]

Anybody use nonethenol gas in there Ford edge, mine being a 2017? We have a few stations in my area, living on a border state, I can go to the cheaper gas. Is it ok to use nonethenol gas?

[akirby]

Of course it’s ok.  You’ll get better mpg but not enough to make up for the higher price.

[David Young]

I use Exxon 87 octane non ethanol gas in my boat. It cost 10 cents per gallon more than the 93 octane, up to 10% ethanol gas I use in my Mustang at the same gas station

[todd92]

I've been using E10 in all of my watercraft (Wakeboarding boat, pontoon boat, 2x Waverunners) for over 10 years with absolutely zero issues.  They are all fuel injected.  I put Sta-Bil in the gas at every fill-up, which I would do even with E0.  There is little E0 available anywhere around me and it's 50-70 cpg more expensive.  I also use E10 in all of the small engines at my farm.  Again, zero issues.  I see no reason to use E0.  Certainly not in a car.

[David Young]

On 12/28/2019 at 8:14 PM, 2017 SLE FORD EDGE said:

Anybody use nonethenol gas in there Ford edge, mine being a 2017? We have a few stations in my area, living on a border state, I can go to the cheaper gas. Is it ok to use nonethenol gas?

 

 

If you can buy nonethanol gas cheaper than up to 10% ethanol gas, they aren't telling the truth. In the past we've had several gas stations selling 100% pure gas with 0 ethanol at normal prices. They were shut down because their gas had the normal, up to 10% ethanol. Just saying...……:)

[enigma-2]

Just happen to run across this conversation.

 

FTI

Heres a link to the US and Canada for non-Ethanol gas stations. (Problem is, it's usually not available in 87 octane).

https://www.pure-gas.org/

Edited July 21, 2020 by enigma-2

[IcyFridge]

I've always wondered if I could run ethanol free gas in my tuned Edge. 

[akirby]

13 hours ago, IcyFridge said:

I've always wondered if I could run ethanol free gas in my tuned Edge. 

Of course.  What matters is the octane.

[IcyFridge]

17 hours ago, akirby said:

Of course.  What matters is the octane.

I know that for the most part, but I always wonder if it's worth it. I didn't do this on the old Focus ST because at the time there was only 91 ethanol free available. Now there's 93 ethanol free at some local Fastrac stations. I was always under the assumption that tunes benefited from some ethanol. 

[akirby]

4 hours ago, IcyFridge said:

I know that for the most part, but I always wonder if it's worth it. I didn't do this on the old Focus ST because at the time there was only 91 ethanol free available. Now there's 93 ethanol free at some local Fastrac stations. I was always under the assumption that tunes benefited from some ethanol. 

That’s only true for E85 or E30 (which is made by mixing E10 and E85 ) because E85 has a much higher octane rating (100+).

 

with E10 the octane has already been adjusted so there is no benefit.  Ethanol actually has less energy which is why without tuning e85 yields about 25% less mpg.  
 

With E0 you’ll see a bit more power and slightly better fuel economy compared to E10 but not enough to justify the higher price.

[WWWPerfA_ZN0W]

You can run up to about E18 on ecoboost engines without the need for a tune.  After that, tune for best benefit - cooling, detonation resistance, and timing advance.

[IcyFridge]

4 hours ago, WWWPerfA_ZN0W said:

You can run up to about E18 on ecoboost engines without the need for a tune.  After that, tune for best benefit - cooling, detonation resistance, and timing advance.

I get that. I know about E30 tunes as well. 

 

I'm just wondering power wise... 93 10% or 93 0%. Which is better (already tuned)? Edit: NVM I overlooked the answer above. 

Edited August 18, 2020 by IcyFridge