1004ron Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 On 6/26/2022 at 8:25 AM, Pam LCB said: I am currently having the exact same issue with the same model and year. I’m curious what was the solution? 10 hours ago, Pam LCB said: I don’t have an Eco boost engine. The water pump has been suggested, I’m more inclined to think computer or drive train related. Putting the car in neutral will bring the temp gauge down to normal. It’s definitely a head scratcher You posted in the "2.0L EcoBoost" section. So what model and year do you have. What are the issues you're having and what have you looked at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhensley1607 Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 Add another one to the list. 2016, just turned 70K miles, and thankfully got the Carmax Maxcare warranty. Maintained to a tee like all my cars. Had a rough idle, and then a day later a CEL. Opened the hood and was astounded to find the coolant resevoir almost empty. Pulled codes and got the P301, then looked on here and knew I had an issue. Must have started pretty quickly - I always eyeball the coolant tanks when checking oil, etc under the hood. It's been at the Ford dealer for 8 days, still waiting for the Maxcare warranty inspector to go visit and confirm it's toast (Dealer said they have to do this all the time). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhensley1607 Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 On 7/25/2022 at 4:11 PM, Jhensley1607 said: Add another one to the list. 2016, just turned 70K miles, and thankfully got the Carmax Maxcare warranty. Maintained to a tee like all my cars. Had a rough idle, and then a day later a CEL. Opened the hood and was astounded to find the coolant resevoir almost empty. Pulled codes and got the P301, then looked on here and knew I had an issue. Must have started pretty quickly - I always eyeball the coolant tanks when checking oil, etc under the hood. It's been at the Ford dealer for 8 days, still waiting for the Maxcare warranty inspector to go visit and confirm it's toast (Dealer said they have to do this all the time). Update - was out of commission for 3 weeks at the Ford dealer but just got it back with a new 2022 Valencia produced long block. Thanks to Carmax warranty was $300 instead of the $7,940 total on the 6 page bill. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntitledCackle Posted August 29, 2022 Report Share Posted August 29, 2022 Are there any reports of this affecting Edges from 2019 and onward even if unacknowledged by this TSB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 29, 2022 Report Share Posted August 29, 2022 1 hour ago, UntitledCackle said: Are there any reports of this affecting Edges from 2019 and onward even if unacknowledged by this TSB? I haven’t seen any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgy2019 Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 My wife’s 2019 Ford Edge Ecoboost was sputtering during acceleration between the 1500 and 2300 RPM range in traffic. I changed the spark plugs thinking that may help. Now, the car idles rough, acts like it wants to die, and smells like rotten eggs from the exhaust. Any suggestions?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 The rotten egg smell from the exhaust is the reaction of unburnt fuel in the Catalytic Convertor, and will shorten the life of the CAT. Get the error codes read - it could be a misfire due to a bad coil, or a bad injector, but the codes will be a good starting point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgy2019 Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 Thanks for the reply. I don’t have any error codes or a CEL. I just tried starting it again after leaving the battery unplugged for the day (not that it would help) and it smells like it’s running rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perblue Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 Take it to the dealer the drive train is covered for 5 years 60k miles. Otherwise double check that the coil packs are seated right and that the connectors to them are fully plugged in and not loose, what you did shouldn't make it run worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Edgy2019 said: Thanks for the reply. I don’t have any error codes or a CEL. I just tried starting it again after leaving the battery unplugged for the day (not that it would help) and it smells like it’s running rich. What did you use to check for codes? Don't need the CEL on for codes to be stored. What's the mileage and is still under warranty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgy2019 Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 I didn’t know I could pull codes without the Check Engine Light on. There are 68k miles on it so it is out of warranty unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 23 minutes ago, Edgy2019 said: I didn’t know I could pull codes without the Check Engine Light on. There are 68k miles on it so it is out of warranty unfortunately. Best get a decent OBDII device and with that use Forscan to scan for codes, or try Autozone or places like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgy2019 Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 Well everyone, Thank you for the reply’s and help. Took it to our family mechanic (25years as a Ford Mechanic). He said that I am getting coolant in cylinders 3&4 and that apparently the Edges had that problem. Looks like I’m going to have to buy a motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdgtchr Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 That same thing happened to me with my 2015 Escape at about the same mileage. If you frequent a Ford dealer go there first or go where you bought the car if it was a Ford dealership. They get $ from Ford to use for good customers for things like this. Then call corporate and talk to them about this. We did both of these things and because we are long time Ford owners (they can look it up and see) they worked with us and we were only out of pocket $2500. Not $0 but a lot less than the original. I just bought a 2021 Edge, I hope this doesn’t happen again! ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincoln_ Posted November 3, 2022 Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 Hello everyone, a query, they have replaced the engine long block, as indicated the TSB , https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2022/MC-10210391-0001.pdf, or there is an alternative solution such as a sealant in the coagulant or similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherylwilson91 Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 I have a 2019 Edge SE that has been giving me problems since day one. I took it in 2 weeks after i bought it because it didnt sound good, they change some high pressure fuel thing, explained that is was still doing the same thing and getting worst. I have had several open tickets on it with manufacture and never anything was always told that it is normal. However here we are in 2022 and now its so bad that it keeps throwing a power train malfunction wrench on the dash and my ford pass app is telling me that my cars health check is all good and the fluid levels are all ok but they are not because the coolant level has been going down for months and there is no leak and now the car is idling high so it jerks when going form park to reverse and when driving the car shifts so crazy and the rpm gauge is moving up and down. Can anyone tell me what i should do i feel like im at my whits end with ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Depending upon the Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) involved in triggering the Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL), and whether your Edge is exhibiting any white smoke/steam out of the tailpipe which may be related to the low coolant condition, you may want to print this Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) and take it with you to the dealership... Document download link: TSB 20-2234 - 2.0L EcoBoost - Illuminated MIL With Various DTCs, Low Coolant Level, White Smoke From Tailpipe, External Coolant Leak.pdf Good luck! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherylwilson91 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 THANK YOU SO MUCH AND WILL DO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgy2019 Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 ***UPDATE*** Well, we replaced the motor with a new one from Ford. $6,000 later, it’s still sputtering. Looks like we are going to be checking the sensors on the transmission now. Yay!!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherylwilson91 Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 took the paper with me to ford and lets just say that the coolant is leaking out the egr cooler and my torque converter is stuck so 12880 is what they say will cost to fix everything, thank god for mechanical breakdown insurance.? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabangsta Posted December 11, 2022 Report Share Posted December 11, 2022 I am looking at a 2019 SEL, I see that 2019 Edge isn't listed in the affected vehicles. Is it because it has the revised Cleveland block, or the VEP block? I am replacing a totaled 2017 Escape that had the 1.5, I had 96,000 miles on it and no issues with the coolant intrusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted December 11, 2022 Report Share Posted December 11, 2022 On 11/17/2022 at 10:38 AM, Edgy2019 said: ***UPDATE*** Well, we replaced the motor with a new one from Ford. $6,000 later, it’s still sputtering. Looks like we are going to be checking the sensors on the transmission now. Yay!!!!! Who's we? Are you checking the transmission sensors in response to the engine spluttering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 dabangsta: While the 2019 Edge 2.0L EcoBoost you're considering is not listed as affected in the TSB origins of this discussion thread, 2.0L EcoBoost water intrusion issues for 2019-2020 Edge and 2019-2020 Nautilus are addressed by TSB 20-2234, as mentioned in my prior exchange with cherylwilson91, whose extended warranty coverage is saving her from paying for a significant engine repair. On 11/14/2022 at 10:31 PM, Haz said: Document download link: TSB 20-2234 - 2.0L EcoBoost - Illuminated MIL With Various DTCs, Low Coolant Level, White Smoke From Tailpipe, External Coolant Leak.pdf As you may already be aware, water intrusion issues on your 2017 Escape's 1.5L EcoBoost were addressed by TSB 22-2322, though as a result of its total-loss collision disposition, title branding may remove any warranty coverage potential if the vehicle is repaired and resold. Document download link: TSB 22-2322 - 1.5L EcoBoost - Low Coolant, White Exhaust Smoke And-Or Illuminated MIL - Built On Or Before 10-Jun-2019 - 08-12 2022.pdf Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabangsta Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 Thank you! I did get the details for that other TSB, trying to get the build date for the vehicle (but that doesn't seem to matter since it was before 7/2020), and since it is within a thousand miles of the 5yr/60k powertrain warranty seeing if it has had the PCM update done. Since they are really not related (the internal "coolant intrusion" because of the way the cooling ports are designed, and the external EGR cooler), I was just wondering why the 2019 Edge was not part of the coolant intrusion when other models with the "same engine" have a part year 2019 affected in the TSB. Buying a used few year old car I get to see what issues have arose, the block issue with coolant (I live in a high ambient temperature climate), flexplate issue, EGR cooler, first year for the 8 speed, etc...I want to be sure I get a vehicle that will last, I tend to drive cars well passed 250,000 miles if they don't get wrecked, so I gotta get it right or agonize for 15 years on where I went wrong. The Escape was past the miles and grandfathered date for the CSP, but since it is totaled it is no longer my worry. However driving it putting miles on it wondering if it was going to happen wasn't a great experience. I took it in very early on for the PCM recalibration for the issue, it seems like all that did was make it circulate coolant longer after shutting it off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt9813 Posted December 26, 2022 Report Share Posted December 26, 2022 I thinking of purchase 2019 ford edge with the 2.0 eco boost engine. Did the head gasket issue fixed on the 2019 model year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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