Ford Edge 2014 AWD 3.5L v6 intermittently hard start even engine cranks (No check light)

[1004ron]

19 minutes ago, omar302 said:

 

You can get it directly from ForScan's site. The "Independent edition". 

I can't connect at work but did hear somewhere that the Android version is no longer available - there might be other sites with copies.

 

forscan.org

 

 

https://forscan.org/home.html

 

FORScan/FORScan LITE Class and Q&A - Page 8 - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

 

FORScan Lite Android Google Play Version - Error - General Ford Related Discussions - Ford Owners Club - Ford Forums

 

 

 

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Edited July 17 by 1004ron

[omar302]

4 hours ago, 1004ron said:

I can't connect at work but did hear somewhere that the Android version is no longer available - there might be other sites with copies.

 

forscan.org

 

 

https://forscan.org/home.html

 

FORScan/FORScan LITE Class and Q&A - Page 8 - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

 

FORScan Lite Android Google Play Version - Error - General Ford Related Discussions - Ford Owners Club - Ford Forums

 

 

 

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Yes. It is not available on the Play store, however, they do now offer an independent version that can be side loaded and license purchased. 

 

I originally had the the Play store version and when it stopped working ForScan gave me a license for the independent version and it works. 

[smcmurray]

Problem solved.

 

To try the cheap stuff first we changed plugs (it was due anyway since it's now at 270,000km) and the purge value since it was also inexpensive and easy to reach. 

 

We took it to an independent mechanic and they said they could not find anything wrong but they didn't have the ford specific scanners or tools to check things like fuel pressure. They replaced the PCV hose but that made no difference.

 

We took it too the dealer and they said no codes, but the purge valve was leaking and the battery was low (I thought it odd to even test the battery since the issue reported was cranking excessively). We had them replace the purge valve (maybe the aftermarket one was bad) and suggested they test it by getting it up to operating temperature and trying to start it. The long start was still there when we picked it up but it was after hours so we had to reschedule. We then changed the battery on the off chance some low voltage condition could be contributing and the battery had a 2018 date on it. 

 

We dropped it off with them again and complained about their poor diagnostics and lack of follow up testing. We did not want them to just throw parts at it and hope for the best. This time they found a problem with the fuel pump so we had them change it. We didn't want to reward them with the extra business, but wanted to be able to hold them to account if they were just blindly replacing parts. 

 

It's been over a week with the new fuel pump and it's back to starting correctly. It still seems odd that the symptom only appeared when the engine was warm, but it's nice to not get all the stares in the parking lot when it cranks over so long before starting.  

Edited yesterday at 02:29 PM by smcmurray

[garycrist]

Sure sounds like good old fashion vapor lock. I also wonder if the fuel strainer,

if it had one, was plugged up or restricted. With low flow, a vapor lock condition,

it would take some time to purge the fuel system of vapor to start injecting liquid fuel.

 

[nomi]

@smcmurrayNice to hear that you solved the issue. how much you paid for new fuel pump inlcuding labour. 

The issue persisit on my ford edge. Should I replace with new fuel pump to fix the issue?

Edited 21 hours ago by nomi