Jump to content

Custom Search

Welcome to the Ford Edge Forum


Sign In  Log in with Facebook

Create Account
Welcome to the Ford Edge Forum - the largest Ford Edge forum discussion board on the web. You must register to create new topics or post in our community, but don't worry this is a simple free process that requires minimal information for you to signup. Benefits of membership:
  • Start new topics and reply to others
  • Subscribe to topics and forums to get email updates
  • Get your own profile page and make new friends
  • Send personal messages to other members
  • Create a photo album and post images. . .and more!
Click here to signup now
 
Guest Message by DevFuse

The Ford Edge ST Has Been Unveiled.  More here.


Photo
- - - - -

2016 Edge Sport (G2) Front & Rear Sway Bars


  • Please log in to reply
9 replies to this topic

#1 OFFLINE   snmjim

snmjim

    New Edge Member

  • Edge Member
  • 130 posts
  • Region:U.S. Northeast
  • Location:Maryland
  • Edge's Year:2016

Posted 11 January 2018 - 01:19 PM

Starting this topic because after some tests, aka playing around N an empty parking lot dry & lightly dusted with snow, we identified that this vehicle tends 2 plow (understeer) N hard cornering... :doh:

 

Therefore, we're N the hunt 4 the correct rear sway bar 2 mitigate this issue... :hat_tip:

 

So far we've established through Ford that the 2016 Edge Sport & 2017 Fusion Sport share the same front sway bar but not the rear.

 

Why does this Info help...because there is more interest, demand & profit 4 companies 2 develop after market performance parts 4 the Fusion Sport. So since these 2 vehicles share many of the same parts there's a good chance that future Fusion Sport parts development will pave the way 4 our platforms with performance & ease of fitment parts.

 

On that note...we have managed 2 connect with the owner of the Fusion Sport that is currently N the final stages of IC fitment at CPe 2 loan us his stock rear sway bar $ fitment R&D on our Edge Sport... :clapping:

 

I know we said that the 2 vehicles share the same front sway bars but not the rear however, since these vehicles share very similar, if not the same suspension we have reason 2 believe that the rear sway bar difference may very well just B thickness and if we validate that then hypothetically...performance sway bars 4 the Fusion Sport will be an option 4 performance handling enthusiasts like Xtra... :shift:

 

Rules of performance designing:

 

1st...Controllability (gotta B able 2 control it & connect it 2 use it safely)

2nd..Stoppability (gottab B able 2 stop it...BTW my word, no jelly...lol)

3rd...Power (because it makes my testies tingle & just because we can & we prefer lots of it...lol)

 

Until further developments... :ford:

 

CIAO!


Edited by snmjim, 11 January 2018 - 01:29 PM.

  • WWWPerfA_ZN0W, onyxbfly and Special_K like this







Lose this advertisement by becoming a member. Click here to create a free account.


#2 OFFLINE   Special_K

Special_K

    New Edge Member

  • Edge Member
  • 32 posts
  • Region:U.S. Northeast
  • Location:Maryland
  • Edge's Year:2016

Posted 11 January 2018 - 02:00 PM

The addition of a rear sway bar will be perfect for the edge as it has ALOT of body roll, and incorporating a rear sway bar will help stop extreme weight transfer keeping the vehicle more neutral in cornering.

 

Adding a stiffer rear sway bar will help with:

  • throttle lift oversteer into corners
  • Neutral cornering under throttle, with possibility for slight oversteer
  • Change hard brake understeer to possible neutral.

Overall I foresee this research helping the handling and nimbleness of a 4400lb boat ;-)


  • WWWPerfA_ZN0W and onyxbfly like this

#3 OFFLINE   Mikula

Mikula

    New Edge Member

  • Edge Member
  • 209 posts
  • Region:Decline
  • Location:Ctx
  • Edge's Year:2016

Posted 11 January 2018 - 05:48 PM

I can say with 100% certainty, on the curves, my 2016 AWD does NOT understeer.

 

her backside comes around with ease. and that was with -2.1* of camber. 

 

however, i think everyone would benefit from a rear sway bar. keep us updated!


  • WWWPerfA_ZN0W likes this

#4 OFFLINE   Special_K

Special_K

    New Edge Member

  • Edge Member
  • 32 posts
  • Region:U.S. Northeast
  • Location:Maryland
  • Edge's Year:2016

Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:05 AM

Mikula thank you for you input, would like to know how you dialed in -2 degrees of camber as this would help greatly with understeer and cornering. 

 

Next if you go into a parking lot with an edge on a stock alignment when wet and try to do any sort of maneuvering, there is only understeer and very little braking oversteer.  Going down mountain or curvy roads does not show the characteristics of understeer as drastically as simple direction changes on a wet surface.

 

A simple experiment to prove this is to take 3 cones, line them up with 30 feet in between them, try to slalom as quick as possible and what will occur is you either take out each cone due to understeer(insert Conekiller joke here), or you will actually not be able to make the turn and literally go past the slalom point.


Edited by Special_K, 12 January 2018 - 11:29 AM.

  • WWWPerfA_ZN0W likes this

#5 OFFLINE   Mikula

Mikula

    New Edge Member

  • Edge Member
  • 209 posts
  • Region:Decline
  • Location:Ctx
  • Edge's Year:2016

Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:15 PM

lowering springs put me into -2.5* camber territory. I backed them down to -1.9* but it brought my toe further out than i'd like it to be, so bumped it back out to 2.1*.

 

It has factory adjustment in the rear to do this, and you can actually get it within factory spec. 

 

on the fronts i bought the camber bolt off amazon for $23 (pn 81280). gives you +/- 1.7* adjustment


  • WWWPerfA_ZN0W and Special_K like this

#6 OFFLINE   Special_K

Special_K

    New Edge Member

  • Edge Member
  • 32 posts
  • Region:U.S. Northeast
  • Location:Maryland
  • Edge's Year:2016

Posted 13 January 2018 - 11:56 AM

lowering springs put me into -2.5* camber territory. I backed them down to -1.9* but it brought my toe further out than i'd like it to be, so bumped it back out to 2.1*.

 

It has factory adjustment in the rear to do this, and you can actually get it within factory spec. 

 

on the fronts i bought the camber bolt off amazon for $23 (pn 81280). gives you +/- 1.7* adjustment

 

Fantastic!  thank you for that information!

SNMJim before your next alignment we should check your camber and see if getting the camber bolt would be beneficial.



#7 OFFLINE   Special_K

Special_K

    New Edge Member

  • Edge Member
  • 32 posts
  • Region:U.S. Northeast
  • Location:Maryland
  • Edge's Year:2016

Posted 13 January 2018 - 12:06 PM

Update on swaybars:

We have gotten our hands on a 2017 Fusion Sport rear sway bar and will be test fitting this coming week.

 

With a quick layover test fitment, it seems to have the overall correct dimensions.  It is thinner than our stock rear swaybar by 1mm but if it bolts right up then that means we can use their aftermarket sway bars which is fantastic because steeda already makes one, so I will call them up and see if they can produce the same bends with a thicker bar.

 

Edge Sport stock rear swaybar = 24.7 mm

 

Fusion Sport stock rear swaybar = 23.7 mm

 

Steeda Fusion Sport rear swaybar= 26.2 mm

 

UPDATE: Just got off the phone with steeda, they are on board if it is a one for one swap!   moving in the right direction folks!


Edited by Special_K, 13 January 2018 - 12:21 PM.

  • WWWPerfA_ZN0W, macbwt, onyxbfly and 1 other like this

#8 OFFLINE   WWWPerfA_ZN0W

WWWPerfA_ZN0W

    Ford Edge Legal Resident

  • Edge Platinum Member
  • 8,381 posts
  • Region:U.S. Northeast
  • Location:Maryland
  • Edge's Year:Decline

Posted 13 January 2018 - 06:52 PM

Smaller swaybar in front, bigger in rear helps at least FWD cars handle real well.  We use/used 24/26 setups in the Gen 1/2 SHO.


  • Special_K likes this

#9 OFFLINE   Special_K

Special_K

    New Edge Member

  • Edge Member
  • 32 posts
  • Region:U.S. Northeast
  • Location:Maryland
  • Edge's Year:2016

Posted 13 January 2018 - 10:31 PM

Smaller swaybar in front, bigger in rear helps at least FWD cars handle real well.  We use/used 24/26 setups in the Gen 1/2 SHO.

 

right, however for those not doing track duty and would like to keep the daily aspect of it, just doing a rear has plenty of benefits.  

Also, the fronts have to be developed and tested, the rear is so much easier.

Yes im taking the easy way out, best bang for buck ;-)


  • WWWPerfA_ZN0W and macbwt like this

#10 OFFLINE   WWWPerfA_ZN0W

WWWPerfA_ZN0W

    Ford Edge Legal Resident

  • Edge Platinum Member
  • 8,381 posts
  • Region:U.S. Northeast
  • Location:Maryland
  • Edge's Year:Decline

Posted 14 January 2018 - 08:19 AM

On the SHO, we only upgraded the rear swaybar, front was stock 24mm.  They downsized the rear swaybar for Gen 2, Gen 1 came with the beefier rear SB.  Easy sway, and a very desirable one!


  • macbwt and Special_K like this




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users