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Hi intotheih. :D To give you an accurate answer, we would need more information. First, is that $27, 250 offer your "Out the Door" price", or do tax and fees still need to be factored in? If it is not the "Out the Door" price with all "Charges and Fees" included, then we need to know how much in added fees there will be. And if your State Sales Taxes are included, please deduct it out. Also, where are you located? Next, what are the current Incentives/Rebates in your area, and which are you using/do you qualify for in this price quote? We need to know how much of that discount off of the $34,440 is Incentive money. If a lot of it is Incentive money, then it is not a very good price. But we can not tell with the information provided. Post back with more information when you can. Good luck. :beerchug:
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2008 Edge Limited seat memory question
bbf2530 replied to ncwhiteedge's topic in Audio, Backup, Navigation & SYNC
Hi ncwhiteedge. :D The door mounted buttons are not just for programming. They "should" also control the seats. I have not set my keyfob remotes to recognize the driver, I only have my door buttons ("1" and "2") set to remember the "Memory Seat" positions for my wife and I and they work fine. So I am not sure if setting the keyfob remotes deactivates the door buttons. I guess it is a possibility (although unlikely I would think). You can follow the Owners Manual directions to deactivate the keyfob remotes and see if that returns function to the door buttons. If it does, you will need to choose one or the other (keyfob or door buttons). If it does not, read on to the next part of my reply. The "1" and "2" buttons on the door should work if they are programmed properly and are not suffering some sort of malfunction. In other words, if you have the "1" button set for your seat settings, you should be able to open the door and hit the "1" button and have the seat move to your position (once the key is inserted into the ignition). The same goes for the "2" button and your wife's seat settings. If they are not working properly, then there is either a problem with the memory seat function that needs Dealer attention or you have not programmed the door buttons correctly. I would therefore recommend that you follow the Owners manual instructions to for reprogramming the door buttons to see if they will work properly. If you can get them to work properly, then reprogram the keyfob remotes and see if you can also get them working properly. Until you discover which option is causing the problem (my guess is the settings on the door buttons were accidentally wiped out), you can simply hit the unlock button on the remote as you approach the vehicle. Yes, I know it is in your garage and already unlocked, but it is the simplest solution until the buttons on the door are programmed correctly. If none of this works, schedule a service visit to have them check the "Memory Seat" function. Hope this is not too confusing. Good luck. :beerchug: -
Hi vs08edge. :D Unfortunately, not all Dealers extend free loaners. Like the Dealership stated, contractually Ford only covers a loaner vehicle when you purchase an ESP contract. If you do not have an ESP contract, the choice is up to the individual Dealership. You do still have some options though. Here is what I would suggest: You can call Ford Customer Relations and firmly but politely plead your case to them. Maybe it will help, possibly they will simply kick the decision back to the Dealership. Therefore your best bet is to speak to the Service Manager about a loaner (if you did not already), not a Tech or Service Writer. Firmly but politely present your case to him/her. If that gets you nowhere, go into the Sales Showroom and speak to the Sales Manager (not your Salesperson). Again, firmly but politely let him/her know how disappointed you are about the fact that you are being expected to go without a vehicle for two weeks. Let them politely know that this would certainly weigh heavily on any future decisions to purchase a vehicle at their Dealership. If that gets you nowhere, then speak to the Dealerships General Manager or the Dealer Principal and let him/her know the same things. If that gets you nowhere, there is one last hope: Did the Service Department disassemble your Edge after it was last test driven and leaked? If it was not disassembled and is just sitting there drivable but waiting for parts, why can't you drive it until the new parts arrive? There is no reason the vehicle has to sit there for two weeks. It is a one day (two at a stretch) job. The leak is not dangerous, just a defective pain in the butt. If it was disassembled, ask them to reassemble it so that you can drive it for the two weeks, or else give you a loaner. In this way, they may decide it is easier to give you a loaner. Either way, at least it would shorten your time without a vehicle. In the end, "the squeaky (but polite) wheel usually gets the grease." Those are my recommendations, for what it's worth. Good luck. :beerchug:
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Hi Cindy. :D My recommendation would also be black. And for the reason you stated. Whatever you decide to do, good luck. :beerchug:
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Hi rockojc. :D In general, the leak being experienced and described here by some Edge owners is limited to the AWD models. FWD models do not have the PTU unit that seems to sometimes be a problem. If you check your Owners Manual, you will see that it warns that drivers of brand new vehicles will sometimes notice a slight "burning odor". This is due to the burning off of oils, cleaners and chemical solvents used on the engine and transmission during manufacturing and assembly. This odor should diminish and then disappear as it burns off the engine with use. Hope this information helps. Good luck.
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Hi rdonchan. :D Just as an FYI, so people understand what the BBB AutoLine Arbitration Program is (in simplified terms): The BBB will arbitrate the dispute between the vehicle owner and Ford/the Dealer. Once the BBB makes their final determination, the decision is binding on Ford/The Dealer, but non-binding on the vehicle owner. So to further explain what that means: If the BBB tells Ford/the Dealer that they must do X (i.e buy back the vehicle, perform further repairs, etc), then Ford/the Dealer must do X. However,if the BBB says that Ford/the Dealer is in the right and does not have to do anything further, the vehicle owner is not bound by that BBB decision and can seek further legal action. That legal action can be the initiation of a Lemon Law suit, or any other Lawsuit/legal action the vehicle owner may feel is justified and viable under their particular States Lemon Laws. So, if you "win" (hopefully) your plight will be over in less than 40 days if the decision is in your favor (and acceptable to you). However, if the decision is not in your favor (the "lose or draw" options), you still have other legal means to accomplish what you are looking for. So there is still the possibility that your plight would not be over with the BBB decision (if you are not satisfied with the judgment). Just some information concerning the BBB AutoLine Program that may be helpful to some. Good luck.
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Hi FORDEDGE. :D I feel your pain. Let us know how it works out, and good luck. :beerchug:
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Hi FORDEDGE. :D Well, this is one of those "Anything is possible, but not very easily" sort of answers. Carpeting for autos is a different type of construction than automotive carpeting. It is a molded (or moulded) carpet, since it needs to flow around lumps and bumps and fit into complex corners. Home/household carpeting is generally meant/manufactured to lay flat. Yes, it can be formed around the lips of stairs, but it needs to be "kicked in" and stapled to stay put. And you can't staple carpeting into place in a car without damaging something. If you have ever seen a household carpet installed on stairs, you will know exactly what I am describing. Also, it is generally not moldable, and definitely will not come in the pre-molded shape needed for your Edge. If you are set on replacing your carpet, my recommendation would be to replace your "camel" or "light tan" carpet with the factory black carpeting. In this way your carpet will fit correctly and be less prone to show stains. Also, have you tried renting a Steam Cleaner to remove the stain? Or asking a Professional Detailer if they can get the stain out? Either of those choices would be less expensive and easier than the replacing the carpet, either with factory or household carpeting. Hope this information helps. Good luck. :beerchug:
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Hi Cannon. :D Just as an FYI: It is no wonder your fuel economy is lower than you would like it to be. Unless the "most of the time" you are driving around with the O/D off is on long downhill stretches of road, driving around town at less than 40-45 mph or while constantly towing a trailer, driving around with the O/D off is hurting your fuel mileage, not helping it. In the long run, it is also putting added/unnecessary wear on your transmission/powertrain. This is a copy and paste from your Owners Manual concerning what happens when you turn off Overdrive: • Transaxle operates in gears one through five. • Provides engine braking. Depending on conditions the transaxle will automatically downshift to increase the level of engine braking while descending grades. • Use when driving conditions cause excessive shifting from O/D to other gears. Examples: hilly terrain, mountainous areas and when engine braking is required. Essentially, what you "think" is keeping your Edge from "...constantly downshifting to try and find power" is fooling your Edge into thinking you need engine braking (like on a long downhill stretch of mountainous road) and keeping it in an unnecessarily low gear. The purpose of a six speed transmission is to allow a vehicles powertrain (engine/transmission) to choose a proper gear suited to the drivers throttle inputs. A six speed transmission should shift up and down more than an older four speed transmission. It is more efficient that way, and keeps the engine in its most efficient power band, both for power and fuel economy. When your transmission is upshifting and downshifting, it is performing as it should. However, you are making the job harder and lowering your fuel economy by turning off the Overdrive function. Of course, it is a free country and you can do as you please. I am simply providing the information to try and help. Do yourself a big favor and read the Owners Manual, especially the sections concerning the Transmission and Overdrive. It will verify the information I have provided. It will also help you increase your fuel mileage and extend the life of your transmission. Good luck. :beerchug:
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Hi Dan. :D There is a complaint process in place to help people when they are not happy with their Dealerships service, or a Dealership says "live with it". When you purchased your Edge, you were given a bunch of paperwork and brochures. One of those brochures is your "Warranty" Guide Booklet. In that Warranty Guide are precise instructions, addresses, phone numbers etc to contact Ford Customer Relations and register a formal complaint concerning the service you have received. If you then are not happy with the response from Ford Customer Relations, there is an explanation of the BBB (Better Business Bureau) AutoLine Arbitration Program. It is a no cost Arbitration Program set up through the Better Business Bureau. The good part about this program is that it's decision i binding on The Dealer/Ford, but non-binding on you. So if the decision goes against your Dealer, the Dealer cannot fight it. If it ges against you, you can still use other legal means to get your concerns addressed. The Dealer will not tell you about these programs, since as far as they are concerned you were handed a booklet that explains all of it. So a customer who does not read their purchase literature is on their own. If you can not find your Warranty Guide, you can download a PDF version here: LINK: Ford Literature Fill in the drop down boxes with your vehicle information and click "Submit". Then click on "Warranty Guide". The Warranty Guide is only about 40 pages long (with big print). It is well worth the time to read through it, especially the sections concerning Ford Customer Relations, The BBB AutoLine Program and State Lemon Laws. Check the Table of Contents. Good luck. :beerchug:
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Hi FourDoor. :D No, it does not make a car easy to break into. A keyless keypad is not the way a criminal is going to gain access to your vehicle. If someone wants to break into or steal your car, they are not going to stand around punching in random numbers. They will pull the lock, or use a "slimjim" to pop the lock, or break a window, etc etc. First, it is much harder to hit a random code than you would believe. Second, if cars that were equipped with keyless entry keypads were being stolen/broken into on a regular basis using the keypad, don't you think that it would have been widely reported by the Police/Media/News Outlets/Insurance Companies, etc etc. The reason you have not heard any widespread warnings about keyless keypads is because they are not a theft problem. Additionally, after an individual inputs seven incorrect code attempts, the system shuts down for a predetermined time. Again, a thief is not going to stand around waiting for the system to reactivate. Bottom line, there are many legitimate things to worry about in life. This is not one of them. Concerning whether the keypad can be disabled: While I do not believe so, I do not know the definitive answer as to whether it is possible. I can tell you that the Owners Manual makes no mention and gives no instructions for disabling it. So if it is possible, it would probably need to be done through the Dealership. But again, while it is a free country and you are free to do as you like with your own vehicle, I would not waste much time thinking or worrying about this subject. Just my opinion. Good luck. :beerchug:
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Hi jtalberts. :D If by pre-wired you mean are the Ford Remote Starter and Sirius radio simple plug and play installations, then the answer is no. There will be cutting, splicing and additional wiring/wiring harnesses needed for both systems, along with the necessary components that need to be purchased and installed. Good luck. :beerchug:
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Hi 818EDGE. :D Sorry to hear about your problems. If you are not happy with the service your vehicle has received, the proper procedures to follow are listed in your Warranty Guide Booklet. You were given this booklet (along with your Owners Manual, Maintenance Schedule etc.) when you purchased your Edge. If you can not find your copy, you can download a PDF copy here: LINK: Ford Owner Information Fill in the drop down boxes and click "Submit". Then click on "Warranty Guide". Pay particular attention to the first page, which outlines who you should speak to and gives phone numbers for the Ford Customer Relations Center. Also important are the sections dealing with the "BBB (Better Business Bureau) Auto Line Program" and "State Warranty enforcement laws". Check the Table of Contents for the pages in your Guide. The guide is only about 40 pages long, and explains exactly what your rights are, and what you need to do to enforce those rights. It would first be normal procedure for the Dealer to attempt to fix your Edge. If your vehicle can be properly repaired, I do not know how willing your Dealer or Ford will be to allow you to turn it in. That is something only you will be able to determine. Any outside deal you may be able to strike with the Dealership would be strictly between you and the Dealer. In general, it is always better to follow the proper procedures and guidelines already in place. If you can not come to some agreement with the Dealer representatives, you should open a BBB Auto Line Arbitration claim. Your particular State may also have certain Lemon Law procedures that you should follow. From the limited information you have provided so far, it seems unlikely that your Edge would qualify for Lemon Law status. Especially if it is subsequently repaired properly. But again, this is between you, the Dealership and Ford. Also, keep in mind that in most States you need to file any claims before your Bumper to Bumper Warranty expires. Let us know how thing work out. Good luck. :beerchug:
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07 Ford Edge Wiper Blades
bbf2530 replied to buffaloedge's topic in Glass, Lenses, Lighting, Mirrors, Sunroof (BAMR), Wipers
Hi buffaloedge. :D After doing some quick research, it seems that the correct wiper blades for the Edge are 26" and 20". So it looks as though the blades you received this time are the correct size. Just as an FYI, if you actually measure the blades, they will normally be approximately a half inch shorter than the advertised size. I guess they round the measurements up. I have no idea why you were given the wrong size drivers side blade the first time. Parts guy goofed. According to the part #, the blades you were given the first time were "Motorcraft Premium Wear Indicator Blades" (that is what the "P" indicates). They were a good blades. But without being able to see them, I can not guarantee that is what you actually received. Other than the fact that you overpaid both times, with the limited information and without being able to see exactly what you have, it is hard to tell you much of anything else. In the future, you can get a coupon for the "Motorcraft Premium Wear Indicator Blades" here: LINK: Service Specials Third offer down. "Motorcraft Premium Wear Indicator Blades" - $19.95 a pair, installed. I just purchase them with the coupon and install them myself. I would also recommend that you always double check wipers (and all parts) to be sure they are the right size, part # etc. I realize that in an ideal world where people do their jobs correctly, this should not be necessary. But as you can see, it can save you unnecessary grief in the future. Good luck. :beerchug: -
Hi Doug. :D Large parts such as headlights "usually" have the part# molded somewhere on the body of the part. Can you find the part number on yours? There will be one there, then you just need to be sure you purchase the same part numbers. You can also ask your local Lincoln-Mercury Dealer what the correct part number is for your particular MKX. You do not have to purchase it from them. Unfortunately, I do not know the answer to the "control box" question. Good luck. :beerchug:
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Hi Doug. :D The Adaptive Headlights for the 2008 MKX are offered as "Available". That would make them optional. So there would be two types: Fixed and Adaptive. Sorry for the dumb question, but are you sure your MKX has Adaptive Headlights and they are broken? Perhaps it does not have the Adaptive Headlight option? Also, in addition to the question ablb asked as to whether you purchased your vehicle "as-is": Were you aware that 2008 Lincolns come with a 4 year/50,000 mile Bumper to Bumper Warranty, and that Warranty automatically transfers to a buyer of a used Lincoln? So unless your MKX has an unusually high amount of mileage, it should still be covered under the "Bumper to Bumper Warranty". As long as the headlights housings were not damaged due to some sort of accident/impact/vandalism etc., you can have them fixed under Warranty. Perhaps you already know this information and that is why you are looking to replace them yourself, but I figured I should mention it just in case. Better safe than sorry. Good luck. :beerchug:
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2007-No Way to Open Rear Hatch From Inside..Ooops
bbf2530 replied to bobert727's topic in Audio, Backup, Navigation & SYNC
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2007-No Way to Open Rear Hatch From Inside..Ooops
bbf2530 replied to bobert727's topic in Audio, Backup, Navigation & SYNC
Hi all. :D While I understand that we all like to have as much "safety" as possible, let me approach this subject for a moment from a different perspective. The Edge does not have a trunk. It has a wide open cargo area. No one is going to be "locked in" and no tragedy is going to occur. And while it may be awkward or embarrassing for an "average side adult" to climb over the rear seat and headrests, it could certainly be accomplished before they tragically perished in the cargo area. In fact, just for the fun of it (and so I could speak from experience), I just tried it earlier today in my neighbors 2008 Edge (she is a very understanding woman, bless her heart). :angel: After reading this post yesterday, I figured I would give it a shot. I am 6'1' and 210 pounds. While a bit larger than the "average adult" (and not as nimble as I used to be ), I was able to climb over the seat and get out of the vehicle without much difficulty. Might it be embarrassing for the neighbors to see you locking yourself in and climbing around the back of your Edge? Sure. But a tragedy waiting to happen? No, certainly not. Also, I forgot to check on my neighbors Edge: Doesn't the middle headrest drop down as part of the rear seat center armrest? It shows that on the Ford website pictures for the 2009 Edge. Or maybe that is only on some models/model years? Either way, whether it does or does not, I was able to climb over the rear seat from the cargo area, and I am certainly no flexible gymnast. :elefant: Please understand, I am not trying to argue with anyone, just trying to explain things from a different point of view/perspective. Good luck. :beerchug: -
Hi tpm. :D If you could provide the name and ZIP Code of at least one (or both) of those Dealerships, it would be helpful. Good luck. :beerchug:
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Memory package what am I doing wrong
bbf2530 replied to C4SMAJ's topic in Audio, Backup, Navigation & SYNC
Hi mfranca. :D Just as an FYI. There is no such thing as a 2008-2009 Edge. It is either a 2008 model or a 2009 model. It is important to know what model year you have, as features can change from year to year. And in the case of the "Memory Seat Feature", it has changed in 2009. The 2009 model Edge does not have the "SET" button. The 2008 does. After looking at the 2008 Owners Manual and the 2009 Owners Manual (they are different), it seems you have a 2009 Edge. Here are the instructions from the Owners Manual for setting the "Memory" seats in your 2009 Edge (DJ Nap had the basics correct): Memory seat feature (if equipped) The Integrated Keyhead Transmitter allows you to recall the memory seat/mirror feature. Press to automatically move the seat/mirrors to the desired memory position. Note: The seat will not travel to its final position if the key is not in the ignition and the easy entry feature is enabled. Activating the memory feature To activate this feature: 1. Position the seat and mirrors to the desired positions. 2. Press and hold either the 1 or 2 control on the driver’s door for five seconds. (A tone will be heard after 11⁄2 seconds when the memory store is done) continue to hold until a second tone is heard after five seconds. 3. Within three seconds press the control on the Integrated Keyhead Transmitter. 4. A tone will be heard when the activation is complete. 5. Repeat this procedure for another Integrated Keyhead Transmitter if desired. Deactivating the memory feature To deactivate this feature: 1. Press and hold either the 1 or 2 control on the driver’s door for five seconds. (A tone will be heard after 11⁄2 seconds when the memory store is done) continue to hold until a second tone is heard after five seconds. 2. Within three seconds press the control on the Integrated Keyhead Transmitter. 3. A tone will be heard when the deactivation is complete. 4. Repeat this procedure for another Integrated Keyhead Transmitter if desired. ALso, you can download a PDF verison (English) here: LINK: Ford Owners Manuals Simply fill in the drop down boxes with your vehicle information and click "Submit". Then click on the link for "Owners Guide". As you will see, you can also download PDF versions of your Scheduled Maintenance Guide and Warranty Guide. Hope this information helps. Good luck. :beerchug: -
Hi Ky Bob. :D Glad everything worked out the way you wanted and glad we were able to help. Good luck. :beerchug:
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Hi FINFAN. :D Unless you have an ESP (Extended Service Plan), your Bumper to Bumper Warranty Warranty expires in 1,000 miles (36,000). After that any repair costs will come out of your pocket. I would recommend that you bring your vehicle in for service as soon as possible. Describe in detail what happens and let them diagnose the problem. The Service Department will be able to check for any TSB's (Technical Service Bulletins) relating to your concerns. I understand you are looking for opinions, but in the end, the Service Department will have to go through their diagnosis procedures no matter what opinions we may give you over the Internet. I just do not want you to lose your window of opportunity concerning Warranty coverage of your problem. Good luck. :beerchug:
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HI DrunkRider. :D I am not sure exactly what that part name may be. However, all you need to do is ask the Parts Manager if the clamp connector parts for the battery cable are available separately. He will than be able to look it up in the parts database. From your description, I have a feeling that the part you are describing may not be available for individual purchase. You may need to buy the entire cable. But the Parts Department will be able to answer that question when you go in. Good luck. :beerchug:
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HiMKXfan. :D I will try to give you the short version. There are only so may times (usually twice at most) rotors can be turned before they are too thin (below spec) and have to be replaced. Also, the thinner a rotor is, the more likely it may warp again (usually from excessive heat) Therefore, if the Dealer has to turn the rotors to fix your problem, it is essentially shortening the life of the rotors and making it that much sooner that you will need to have new rotors installed. And next time it may be likely out of Warranty and come out of your pocket. So, if it is a rotor problem and the Dealer says they need to be turned, I would ask if they can be replaced instead. Keep in mind that Ford/the Dealer do not have to replace the rotors. According to the Warranty provisions of a new car, to fix (turn) or replace is completely up to Fords discretion. But it does not hurt to ask. Let's hope the fix is something simple. Good luck. :beerchug:
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HI 91renegade. :D Please read my reply which is directly above (before yours). The same information actually applies directly to your question as it did to the other forum member before. Good luck. :beerchug: