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Hi jsaucier. :D Well, you have already heard of the two places where most people looking for the code have stated they have found it: the PCM and the passenger compartment fuse box. You say you looked in the "fuse box". Did you look in the passenger compartment fuse box (located below and to the left of the steering wheel, under the dash), or the fuse box in the engine compartment? The anecdotal evidence I have heard is that it is sometimes found in the passenger compartment fuse box, not the engine compartment. The PCM (Powertrain Control Module) is essentially a small computer, usually silver in color and about 6"x4" (but they vary in size). It is located in the front passenger side footwell, under the glove box and behind or slightly above the right side kick panel. I know the Owners Manual describes how to find and access the fuse boxes. I am not sure at the moment whether it does the same for the PCM Keep in mind that while a few people have stated they found the code listed in one of those two places, many more have looked and stated that it was not located there in their particular vehicle. If you can not find it there, your only choice will be to have the Dealership retrieve it. You should politely tell the Dealer that for the amount of money you paid for the vehicle, that service should have been provided. After all, the Keyless Entry Keypad is part of the equipment that came with the vehicle, and all equipment should be functioning and usable when you purchased it. Since you can not use it without the code, it should have been retrieved and provided when you purchased. After all, if the windshield wipers or door locks were inoperable, the Dealery would certainly need to fix them under the terms of most used car purchase agreements. Well, in this case, your Keyless Entry Keypad is inoperable. Also, if you are missing any of your other documentation or booklets, you can get some of them (Owner Manuals, Warranty Guides or Scheduled Maintenance Guides) in PDF form here: LINK: Ford Vehicle Booklets Just fill in the drop down boxes with your vehicle information, click "Submit", then click on the manual/guide you need. Let us know how you make out, and good luck. :beerchug:

Hi Kanatronic. :D They are all the same in that area underneath the vehicle. The "black plastic splash guard" or "black thing" that you describe as being in the way is the "Splash Shield" which the Owners Manual specifically states must be removed first. You simply need to get underneath the front end of your Edge, locate the fasteners used to attach it, determine what tool you need to remove them, and then remove them. Then remove the Splash Shield. You will then have easy access to the back of the fog light housings. That is how to access the bulbs according to the Owners Manual. Or you can try the method that "wthrower" described above and he states he used to change his fog light bulbs. It is not the preferred method as described in the Owners Manual, but maybe it will be easier for you. I would do what the Owners Manual recommends, but that is just my opinion. Good luck. :beerchug:

Hi Kanatronic. :D I am not sure if you are asking how to replace them, if anyone has any experience replacing them, or both. If you are asking how to replace them, the detailed instructions are in the Owners Manual. They are on page Page 90 of the 2008 Edge Owners Manual copy I have. They are a relatively easy job as far as bulb replacements go. You do need to remove the splash shield to gain access from underneath the front of the vehicle. Check your Owners Manual for the details. Good luck. :beerchug:

Hi IZZYAZ. :D Just as an FYI (for others, you already know), the "L" setting specifically there for use in mountainous driving. It's purpose is to provide more engine braking on long downhills, to help avoid brake overheating and fade. That is specifically why it's there. Or as our Owners Manuals explain (page 245 in the 2008 Edge manual, others may be different). I copied and pasted and underlined below: L (Low) • Provides maximum engine braking. • Will downshift to the lowest available gear for the current vehicle speed; allows for first gear when vehicle reaches slower speeds. For the sake of those wondering, since it has been asked in the past: "L" does not provide any added acceleration or power. It is not a "Sport" mode, etc. It simply does what the Owners Manual states. It should only be used in cases where you really need the added engine braking to avoid brake failure. As ISSYAZ stated: Mountainous driving, stopping during towing etc. It should not be used all the time, as it will put added wear on your transmission. And transmissions are more expensive to replace than brakes. Additionally, it will lead to lower fuel mileage, due to the transmission being held in a lower gear whenever your foot is off the accelerator. Hope this information helps. Good luck. :beerchug:

Hi stordi. :D Well, it is completely up to you of course, but why not let the Field Service Rep look, make a determination as to what Ford will do, then make a final decision. All of this worrying and hand-wringing may be for nothing if the dash is repaired or replaced. Whatever you decide to do, good luck. :beerchug:

EDITED - To correct my mistake. Checked the Tire Rack website and saw that the Hankook is an OEM tire on the 2008 SE and SEL with 17" wheels. The 18" wheels have the Michelin Latitude. Never knew Hankook was in the mix. Should have double checked before I first replied! Also came back and saw akirby's reply. __________________________________________________________ Hi PrinzII. :D Not sure if you have already tried it, but there is a very good tire rating system on the Tire Rack website: LINK: The Tire Rack Also on the Discount Tire website: LINK: Discount Tire Good luck. :beerchug:

Hi stordi. :D In addition to the good advice akirby offered, you should know this (actually, everyone should know this): Among the various booklet s and paperwork you received when you purchased your MKX, is your "Warranty Guide". In that Warranty Guide Ford lists in detail the procedures to follow if you are not happy with the vehicle and/or the service you receive from the Dealership. Once you are handed the booklet, the Dealer will not remind you of its existence. You need to perform a bit of self-help. Find the Warranty Guide booklet and read it. Pay special attention to the Warranty rights sections. You will find addresses and contacts at Ford Customer Service (as you stated, you may have already spoke to them). The next step is already in place, as a Ford Field Service Rep is scheduled to look at your vehicle. If after the Field Service Rep looks at your vehicle, you are still not satisfied, then the next step is to follow the procedures to file a grievance with the BBB (Better Business Bureau) Auto Line Arbitration Program. The instructions are spelled out in detail in the Warranty Guide. For better or worse, it is up to us as buyers to read the literature we are given and follow the procedures already set in place. Unfortunately, you may have a bad Dealer. As akirby already mentioned, it can happen whether you buy a Ford, a Toyota or a BMW. Good luck. :beerchug:

Hi anthony9887. :D Yes, eventually. Good luck. :beerchug:

Hi MKXgeek. :D Welcome, and good luck with the new MKX! :beerchug:

Hi edge18. If you are unhappy with the service you have received, there is a specific complaint process to follow. When you purchased your vehicle, you were given a "Warranty Guide" booklet (not the Owners Manual or Maintenance Schedule booklets). In that Warranty Guide are spelled out in detail your rights and the procedures to follow if you are not happy with your vehicle or the service it receives. It gives the correct departments to contact at Ford, and the correct process to follow if the response from Ford or the Dealer is not satisfactory. These processes include the BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU (BBB) AUTO LINE PROGRAM (a free arbitration program) and beginning Lemon Law claims. If you can not find your Warranty Guide or purchased used and did not receive one, you can get a PDF version here: LINK: Warranty Guides Just input your vehicle information in the dropdown boxes, click "Submit", the click "Warranty Guide". Good luck.

Hi ablb. :D Yes (or something better), without a doubt. Good luck. :beerchug:

Hi Tom. :D According to the PDF version of the 2008 Edge Owners Manual (page 269), the correct Torque rating is 100 lb.ft. Keep in mind, as the Manual also mentions: "*Torque specifications are for nut and bolt threads free of dirt and rust. Use only Ford recommended replacement fasteners." So clean the lug threads and lug nuts, otherwise the actual Torque may wind up being lower than recommended/expected. To check your Owners Manual, just look in the Index under "L" for "Lug nuts". Also, do not use any lubricants or anti-seize compounds on the lug threads or nuts. Unless specifically called for (and it is not called for on the Edge), use of those types of lubricants can result in overtightened lug nuts, and possible damage to the lugs and/or warped brake rotors. Good luck. :beerchug:

Hi MKx Limited. :D The TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) simply tells the Dealer how to fix a minor problem with the Panoramic Moonroof. It deals with a loose trim piece. There would be no reason for anyone to know about it, unless they were having a Moonroof rattle problem and brought their vehicle to the Dealer for repairs. I don't know if you are familiar with what TSB's actually are. They are not recalls. They are not sent out to owners of a vehicle. The easiest way to describe a TSB is that they are repair guides sent by Ford to their Dealers. The purpose of most TSB's is to allow the Repair Technician to zero in on a known problem without wasting time trying to diagnose the cause. For example: The Moonroof TSB will only apply to MKX's/Edge's that are having the loose trim piece problem, not every MKX/Edge. The TSB basically says to the Repair Technician: Okay, if someone comes in with a rattling Moonroof, we have seen this problem in some vehicles already, so check "trim piece "A" first. If it is loose, perform repair order B". Eventually, those updates and corrections are added to the production line, and the cause of the problem is eliminated on newer models. Hope I answered your question and this information helps. Good luck. :beerchug:

Hi Bill. :D Glad you were able to finally get things resolved. Good luck with your Edge! :beerchug:

Hi MKx Limited. :D The Ford Recommended Change Interval is every 15,000 miles with no month/year time limitation. You can find it listed in your Maintenance Schedule booklet. Hope this information helps. Good luck. :beerchug:

Hi Splitpi. :D As Bill correctly stated, you can obtain the Shop Manuals from the Motorcraft, Ford Fleet, and Ford Genuine Service websites. Unfortunately, you will usually pay a premium price when purchasing from Ford on those sites. You will often be able to purchase the Shop Manuals for less from other vendors. Whichever way you decide to go, good luck. :beerchug:

Hi Splitpi (love the screen name!). :D If you mean to download or use for free, I do not know of any reliable websites hosting that service. If you Google "Ford Edge Shop Manuals" and scroll through the offerings, you will find some sites that offer very inexpensive prices to download the Manual (I found one for $4.99). You can give that a try. I will not list the names of any of the sites, as I have not tried them. Also, since I do not know how reliable or safe they may be, I am not endorsing any particular site. Going the more traditional route, the Shop Manuals are also available for purchase online at various legitimate seller sites. A quick Google found 3 sellers offering the Edge/MKX Shop Manual on Ebay. There are also the regular sellers like Haynes (haynes.com) who offer shop manuals for all types of vehicles as a business. Good luck. :beerchug:

Hi all. :D Actually (and just as a side note) according to all information I have ever seen, the Edge does not come with an alarm system from the factory. What the Edge does come with as standard equipment is the "SecuriLock Passive Anti-Theft System". This consists of a transponder chip embedded in the IKT key/keyfobs fobs. This system works as an engine immobilizer if anyone should try to start the car without the properly coded key. This SecuriLock system is completely passive and gives no alarm, signal or horn honks. It arms automatically and silently. Unfortunately, it is not an alarm system. The horn honking and light flashing we see when we press the lock buttons on the remote keyfobs once or twice also has nothing to do with an alarm system. It simply notifies the driver that the doors have locked. If there was an alarm system present, it would be listed as a "Perimeter Alarm/Security System", and there is no such listing for the Edge. I checked both the Owners Manual and the Ford website, and there is no mention of the "Perimeter Alarm System" or any alarm system on the Edge, either standard or optional. What Ford does have available for the Edge is a "Genuine Ford Accessories' alarm system. This system can be installed by the Dealer, or a private installer (or the vehicle owner if he/she wishes). But again, according to all information I am aware of, it would not have the module on the windshield (or anywhere else) which Bill describes. Hope this information helps. Good luck. :beerchug: PS - If anyone has information to the contrary, and I missed something/somewhere, would you please provide a link or a page containing the correct information showing that the Edge does have a factory alarm?

Hi Bill. :D If that is for the alarm system, then you have an "aftermarket" alarm system (non-factory) installed in your Edge. The Dealer must have installed it, or had it installed by a outside installer. The Ford "Factory" alarm system is not set up like that. Unfortunately, the Edge's Owners Manual will not provide any information concerning your alarm system in this case. If it is not already in the literature provided to you when you purchased the Edge, you will need to ask the Dealer for the Manual provided by whoever manufactures the alarm system. I am curious as to who the Manufacturer actually is. Keep us updated. Good luck. :beerchug:

Hi toneman. :D No, it can not be turned off, and there is no separate fuse to pull either. Due to the fact that it is a Federally mandated safety feature, there is no option to turn it off. The options are live with the "idiot light" being on all winter, or install sensors on the winter wheels. Good luck. :beerchug:

EDIT - I was replying at the same time as Lex, so I did not see his reply above. But as you can see by my post, we both seem to have arrived at the same conclusion. Hi Bill. :D Are you sure that is not some sort of aftermarket add-on? I do not recall seeing that on a factory vehicle. Of course, I could be mistaken, but it just looks added on and does not look like a factory installed item. Good luck. :beerchug:

Hi kanatronic. :D If your 2000 Taurus with 125,000 miles on it is knocking, it is likely due to the engine being out of tune, and/or it has deposits on the pistons and valves that are causing the knocking. Essentially, those deposits take up displacement volume, thereby increasing the compression ratio, leading to pre-ignition (knocking/pinging) A full tune-up and a good engine cleaner treatment should take care of the problem. That being said, it is not valid to compare an 8-9 year old car with 125,000 miles to a new car, as they are two different animals. I realize you already know that, but I am just mentioning the fact so others do no get confused and think premium fuel is the correct fuel for all new cars. But in either case, a well maintained vehicle that is built to use only 87 octane fuel will see absolutely no benefit from higher octane fuel use. in fact, as our Owners Manual clearly mentions, high octane fuels (higher than 87) can actually cause problems in vehicles that are not required to use premium fuels. The Edge/MKX are prime examples. While it used to be the case years ago that premium fuel had additives which the lower grades did not, that is no longer the case with the Major Brand name fuels. It is sometimes still the case with discount fuel from off brand gas stations. Essentially, you need to be careful where you buy your gas from. The simple way to look at this is as follows: If premium fuel actually gave any fuel mileage or power benefits, the Auto Manufacturers would recommend premium fuel in all of their vehicles, instead of only those that have an Engine management System programmed for it. They spend millions of dollars a year to squeeze out a few extra tenths of a MPG from their engines for higher EPA Mileage ratings. If using premium would actually give the big boost in MPG's that some people claim, the Auto Manufacturers would jump all over that fact. Premium fuel will only make a difference in engines that are optimized for the higher octane. Using it in an engine not optimized for premium is simply a waste of money. For anyone who doubts this information, it is readily available with just a minimum of research. Good luck. :beerchug:

Hi K. :D A 17" wheel with the proper offset will fit the SEL AWD model. Unfortunately, if your 17" wheels do not fit, it would seem that you purchased wheels that do not have the correct offset. You should return them for wheels with the correct offset to wherever you purchased them. Good luck. :beerchug:

Hi IZZYAZ. :D I am temporarily removing my tinfoil hat. I did some quick checking on the Tire Rack site and have to agree with akirby here. Have you considered the Michelin Latitude Tour HP? It is the standard equipment tire from the factory on the 2008 Edge SEL FWD. It is showing a price of $129 for the factory 18" size. That is $30 less per tire than the Michelin LTX ($159) and only $5 more per tire than the Firestone Destination LE ($124). In researching the tires quickly, it seems it may be a better choice. It is less of a truck oriented tire, and is listed as more suitable to the crossover category the Edge occupies. But again, I do not know your specific needs, so take a look on the Tire Rack site. Just a thought. Good luck. :beerchug: