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I tried to place my order with the dealer today, however when they select the option 66p for the performance brakes it zeroes out all dollar amounts and they couldn't give me a price. They asked me if I had heard what the price would be :p No idea when we'll be able to order the "late availability" brake package. I don't care how long it takes to build, I just want to get my order in! They were offering $500 over invoice. Other dealers in the area will hold at MSRP or above.

Ford's stop/start is seamless, smooth, and harmless to the engine and drivetrain. It can make a decent impact to your mileage as well if you do a lot of sitting at stoplights. You'll barely notice it unless you have loud exhaust.

Unfortunately you have to live in China to get these differentiating features. Pass. Some of this is due to local market appeal. Some is local regulations in whichever country its in. Some is due to backasswards regs here in the states. Thats why a lot of cars haven't moved to LED headlights here, as an example. Thank your federal gubmint for that one. Believe me automakers would prefer to standardize globally. Ford has been trying to do that for a number of years now. Doesn't do them any good to have to use two different (or more) parts bins

F'ing Wheelspin, Dude. Thats what FWD is lol

Personally I'd be very happy with a mild tune that'll work with 91 octane (we have 92 here but I travel to CA with crap 91 gas often). A little better response on throttle tip in, perhaps some adjusted shift points, and 30 lb feet of torque would make a nice improvement and hopefully not push it to the edge of drivability or longevity

Boom.

Everyone is right about the 5 year free trial so its definitely worth it for that. I've had it on several vehicles for years and here are my impressions: 1. The weather map is actually pretty useful while traveling if you want to see where big storms are for safety's sake. Just say "Weather Map" and it will show you doppler radar. Its actually pretty cool. 2. The travel link software is useful so long as you're in an area where they actually have info. This is especially useful on long trips where theres an accident or construction way ahead of you. It will actually warn you proactively and offer to let you "avoid" the issue and route you around it. Super useful on road trips. If you live in a high traffic area like Seattle, roads where its super slow moving will show up yellow or red. Also useful. 3. Sports scores and other "data" services are kind of meh. Most don't work while the vehicle is in motion so it doesn't help your passengers. 4. Its still subject to the same old issues with MFT - specifically it is slow and sometimes not intuitive. It doesn't do anything your phone can't do, but its a little "safer" at least theoretically than looking at your phone. To each his own, but definitely worth the cost (free).

I think I paid about $139 shipped

I took a trip this past weekend that was just under 2 hours each direction. Averaged 25.9MPG according to the trip computer. 92 octane, Sport, standard wheels, etc etc

By law (at least in most states), warranties and leases start at the mileage on the odometer as reported to the DMV during the sale, not at 0. Plus one on this though - you should receive a discount. If they want sticker (or god forbid even more), tell them you want a car with less than 15 miles on it or you walk.

No worries - miscommunications are common on the interwebz :p

I never said they can literally just go take a car, just that they can sell from another dealer's lot. Sometimes that involves trading another car from the lot of the "taker" and sometimes it involves an inventory credit back to the dealer who is giving up the car. Its not like they are taking them in the night They are strongly encouraged by Ford to allow these trades and off-lot sales, though, because Ford ultimately usually owns the inventory anyway and is more interested in any sale than any particular dealer only selling from their own on site inventory. Of course both dealers have to agree to it - I never intended to suggest otherwise.

Rules may be different in your state but they absolutely can do so in MN, WA, and CA - all states I've purchased Fords in. In fact, my local dealership will "hide" vehicles they've purchased specifically to avoid other dealers poaching their vehicles. Remember that most dealers don't actually own a lot of their inventory. Ford provides vehicles to dealers so they don't have to pay up front. Imagine how financially burdensome it would be to start a new dealership and have to pay in cash for potentially hundreds of new vehicles for your lot. The financial arrangements with the factory on dealer inventory, warranty repairs, etc are all extensive and confusing. This is how it is with a lot of factory dealerships and not limited to just cars. My family has been in the copier business for ages and rarely do they have to actually buy showroom inventory from the factory. It is provided under something like a lease agreement at least for a period of time. That way the dealer can have inventory without a huge outlay.

Also dealers can sell from each other's lots and trade vehicles back and forth. The Edge could have originally been delivered to a dealer in another state, hundreds of miles away. It could have then been traded between dealers for other vehicles before ending up at your dealership. Thats pretty common. Dealers can sell directly from the lots of other dealers or they can "trade" vehicles in order to make sales. My last car was a 2014 Fusion Hybrid that got sold to me from a lot on the other side of the state and racked up a few hundred miles before it got to me. The hair clip probably didn't come from a customer. Dealerships hire "courier drivers" who drive cars back and forth between dealers and auctions. i'd bet it came from one of them. Otherwise, probably a test drive vehicle as suggested above.

You only have the auto high beams if you have the lane keep assist as well. Both functions use the special forward facing camera mounted in front of the rear view mirror. You can see the lens if you look head on into the windshield in that area.

There are a few 2016 MKX reviews out there. Depending on which review of which car you favor, the MKX seems to be a few 10ths slower 0-60. Weight may be part of it, gearing may be part of it, driver may be part of it. Keep in mind the Lincoln is designed and intended to focus on luxury first. It is not uncommon for luxury brands to have more power but not necessarily have the performance to match based on the above factors.

The MKX is slower than a sport. The gearing may be different, but the weight certainly is. All of that sound deadening and other frou frou stuff on the lincoln doesn't defy gravity. The internals may be the same but moving to a transverse mount does involve intake and exhaust changes as someone noted above. These alone wouldn't be enough to make a difference - its all in the tune. If you want to know how much a tune can make a difference, pop your Sport into "S" and feel the difference in spark advance and throttle response change. I have no doubt when tuning options come out for the Edge as they eventually will that we will see Edges seeing some nice gains. Whether your transmission and other powertrain parts hold up to the additional stress may be a different story Its also completely possible that the only difference is in advertised numbers and the actual differences are much much less. Only your local dyno knows for sure.

I get between 320 and 380 miles per tank depending on how much city driving I'm doing. Averaging 21 mpg on my Sport on 92 octane

It sounds like the few of us who got the dealer fix prior to any water damage really dodged a crazy bullet here. Lets hope the fix, er, fixes it.

Ordered mine from Tousley Ford in MN. They said it was backordered, but I had it a week later. Its quite a bit different than the wife's Escape, but works well. There are two small squares on either side of the cargo area that it snaps into (its spring loaded). Some vinyl flaps then snap onto the posts of the rear headrests. Finally, rather than pulling straight back then clipping down like the Escape, you pull it out and run it into some grooves where you have to pull it up to click in. Easy install, covers the cargo area well, and I'm glad I got it.

Since they revised those a few years ago, they aren't too far off. Those companies who have either screwed up or outright lied about MPG numbers have gotten in hot water and ended up giving money back to customers. I know, because Ford sent me a check for the MPG on my hybrid 2014 Fusion not matching real world numbers. Same thing happened with Hyundai a few years ago.

Sport here. Just under 3k miles, mix of city and highway, running 92 octane. Averaging 21MPG according to the onboard computer. I drive what I consider normally and put my foot into it usually only when getting on the freeway.

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I know we have lots of threads and posts on this topic, but I'm curious if anyone has detected a leak after the dealer "fix" with the sealant. After all of this and the seriousness of the original issue, I'm slightly concerned as to whether this will be a long term fix or just enough to prevent leaks until the warranty is up. I've lifted up my Weathertech mats after a couple of good rains and a car wash and I don't feel any dampness, but all of this has me worried.

Keep in mind a lot of the per-country variations are based on local safety regulations. This is why European cars generally have far more advanced lighting than US cars and why its taken so long to see US cars with HIDs and LED headlights. Our safety regulations were developed forever ago by gubmint folks who know little or nothing about cars. I'm not sure that this explains the Chinese variant specifically, but the US has lagged behind due in no small part to outdated government regs.