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#1 OFFLINE   snmjim

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 07:02 PM

Special K & I are working R&D with BNR to come up with better performing bolt on turbos.

 

BNR has many years of EcoBoost turbo development and is willing to take this on.

 

However, they require a left & right turbo donation.

 

Pricing & availability will come after the R&D process.

 

2016 Edge Sport 2.7 Turbo Info:

 

Left p/n: FT406K682G

Right p/n: FT406K682F

 

Cross Models:

 

2015-2018 - Edge Sport

2017 & 2018 - Fusion, Continental & MKX


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Posted 06 November 2017 - 01:24 PM

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 11:37 AM

Looks like they will have to go to ford and buy two turbos then the development can begin.



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Posted 13 December 2017 - 12:57 PM

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Posted 29 January 2018 - 07:54 PM

Found a pair of 2016 Edge Sport Turbos with 10k for $300, couldn't pass that up, now off to the MOD shop... :drool:  :yahoo:

 

There are way too many out there majorly totaling these cars, bad for them but great pickings for us.

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 04:54 PM

Exciting news! Looking in the territory 500hp with 22psi to redline!!! Woot!!!

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 07:25 AM

Update on turbos:

 

stock is 33mm cold side and 46mm hot side

 

New turbo will have a billet wheel with 40mm cold side and 53mm hotside and a more aggressive hotside pitch (to be determined).

 

Our goal is 22psi to redline without being a hair dryer!

 

Also, having turbo blankets made to cut down on engine bay temps

 

Till next update!


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Posted 09 March 2018 - 07:46 AM

As a future project, maybe you could see if the turbos get enough oil for lubrication/cooling.  The 3.5s definitely benefit from slightly larger oil feed orifices.

 

The longterm jury is out on this product for the 3.5, but so far so good.  Did need to retune after installation.

https://www.ebay.com...10/122459970729


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Posted 09 March 2018 - 07:52 AM

As a future project, maybe you could see if the turbos get enough oil for lubrication/cooling.  The 3.5s definitely benefit from slightly larger oil feed orifices.

 

The longterm jury is out on this product for the 3.5, but so far so good.  Did need to retune after installation.

https://www.ebay.com...10/122459970729

 

The machinist I'm using specializes in turbos, and I have asked him to look at all weaknesses including cooling and oil.  He said they all look good so far. 

 

Ironically these turbos are going to be bigger than the 3.5L aftermarket ones XD.  will see full boost by 2500 so that's good.


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Posted 09 March 2018 - 07:55 AM

I would ask him anyway to look into the ability to enlarge the oil feed.  See what the scope is should the need arise.  Maybe Ford already put in a bigger feed than they use on the 3.5s, IDK.  That would be a GOOD thing :)

 

I think this is still the most significant power adder to date re turbos for the 3.5.  Just something to compare

Stock Turbine
-Wheel Inducer: 40mm
-Wheel Exducer: 34.5mm

Stock Compressor
-Wheel Inducer: 36.3mm
-Wheel Exducer: 49mm

Upgraded +2 Turbine
-Wheel Inducer: 50mm
-Wheel Exducer: 43.5mm
-Range: New Series Garrett GT Journal Bearing

Upgraded +2 Compressor
-Wheel Inducer: 43.4mm
-Wheel Exducer: 56mm
-Range: New Series Garrett GT Journal Bearing

Twin turbo upgrade, direct bolt-on stock location. +2 size Garrett flows 200-250HP more than stock turbos. Remachined stock end housings. All new Garrett CHRA (Center Housing Rotating Assembly). Core exchange required.


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Posted 11 March 2018 - 06:09 PM

Any update on the turbos. Do you have them back from the rebuild yet ? A killer kit of turbos I C and cold pipe I cant wait...an awesome power combo .
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Posted 12 March 2018 - 05:57 AM

Any update on the turbos. Do you have them back from the rebuild yet ? A killer kit of turbos I C and cold pipe I cant wait...an awesome power combo .

 

I quoted the most recent update that occurred 3 days ago Xtra.  We are hoping to have them back in a month or so!

 

Also, Xtra I hope your looking at braking solutions soon cause a 450awhp 4400lb machine is going to take a lot to stop....

 

Update on turbos:

 

stock is 33mm cold side and 46mm hot side

 

New turbo will have a billet wheel with 40mm cold side and 53mm hotside and a more aggressive hotside pitch (to be determined).

 

Our goal is 22psi to redline without being a hair dryer!

 

Also, having turbo blankets made to cut down on engine bay temps

 

Till next update!


Edited by Special_K, 12 March 2018 - 07:25 AM.

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 04:41 PM

Also, Xtra I hope your looking at braking solutions soon cause a 450awhp 4400lb machine is going to take a lot to stop....

 

Have that covered with a Rotora big brake kit already installed on the front and back. 6 piston 15 inch fronts and 14 inch 4 piston rears . Roots57 and I both have this setup but his are slotted and mine are drilled rotors B) . Attached File  ROTORA 15 INCH 2 PIECE ROTORS WITH 6 PISTON CALIPERS .jpg   130.2KB   0 downloads


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Posted 12 March 2018 - 05:49 PM

If i've got a leaking turbo seal, someone better sell me those better turbos, K?


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Posted 12 March 2018 - 09:05 PM

Once SpecialK & I R done developing the IC Outlet pipe, IC & Turbos well definitely provide all the required purchase Info...;-)

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 10:35 PM

What's the plan for wheel hop?

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 11:09 PM

What's the plan for wheel hop?


AWD...lol

On a serious note...we haven't encountered that issue with the 2016 Sport AWD yet.
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Posted 13 March 2018 - 04:37 AM

AWD...lol

On a serious note...we haven't encountered that issue with the 2016 Sport AWD yet.

I guess your not putting the power down that Leo and Chris are, cause they are/were hopping along like peter cottontail 


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Posted 13 March 2018 - 06:39 AM

I guess your not putting the power down that Leo and Chris are, cause they are/were hopping along like peter cottontail 

 

proper preparation and proper technique goes a long way, air down tires to 25psi and roll in from 75% throttle at 3rd yellow and no wheel hop or shudder.

 

What's the plan for wheel hop?

 

lower tire psi, and delayed boost in 1st


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Posted 13 March 2018 - 06:45 AM

If i've got a leaking turbo seal, someone better sell me those better turbos, K?

 

He is buttoning up the prototypes and will sending them in a few weeks.  will keep you updated.

 

On a disappointing note, Torrie from unleashed has yet to reply to any of my emails so we maybe stuck finding a different tuner :-/


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