akirby

There is nothing to support. It works fine. The hardware is still available. There is no reason to update it.

Warranty prices vary a lot - it's all in the negotiation. And you always want a larger deductible - as big as you can afford. Because you more than make up for it in the price of the warranty (or any type of insurance). Zero deductibles are money wasters.

This doesn't seem to be a problem with Ford ESPs which is the only one you want. 3rd party warranties suck for the reason you mentioned.

I heard it didn't put up much resistance.

Case dismissed.

Sounds fishy. Did it die before or after the new one arrived?

The answer is you may have one or two vehicles where you have to spend more than the warranty fee on repairs. But over the course of several vehicles the law of averages says you'll make it up and then some. You just have to be able to withstand the bad ones. One exception I will point out - if you don't have enough cash or credit to pay for a large repair out of pocket (fixed income, etc.) then you should get the ESP but finance it with the vehicle so you're only paying a few dollars per month instead of a lump sum outlay for a repair. If you really want to get the ESP go ahead - just understand that it's essentially a gamble and the house odds are against you winning. Don't do it thinking you're going to necessarily save money in the long run.

Your problems are no different than someone having engine/pcm problems where the problem can't easily be diagnosed. If this type of problem was inherent in most MFT vehicles then we would be hearing about them just like we did when the 11 Edge debuted MFT. You can bitch and whine all you want about YOUR vehicle. That's perfectly valid and nobody can argue with what you're experiencing. But when you try and extrapolate that to all other vehicles especially when ALL of the other evidence points to the contrary that's just ridiculous. If your engine kept dying and Ford couldn't figure out why and then later they figure it out and publish a TSB that involves a PCM code update that fixes it - would you go around yelling that Ford deceived you because they advertised a car that would run without stalling? And would you make that claim based on the fact that they publish code updates? Of course not, so stop doing it here. It's getting tiresome.

Just a couple of points. You can buy a Ford ESP anytime before the 3 yr/36K bumper to bumper warranty expires. After 12 months the price goes up by $100. As stated you already get a factory 5 yr/60K mile powertrain warranty. So that 7 yr/75K ESP only buys an additional 2 yr/15K miles of powertrain coverage. It is almost always cheaper to self-insure (don't buy warranties or insurance and just pay for your own repairs out of pocket) if you can afford to do so. Over several vehicles you will come out ahead. It's like Vegas - the odds are always in the dealer's favor (or the ESP provider in this case). Otherwise they wouldn't make any money. Case in point - I've had 6 vehicles that have gone at least 2 years past the warranty period with only a couple of $100 or less repairs I did myself. That includes 2 Rangers, a Lincoln LS, a Fusion, Edge and Expedition. Had I purchased ext. warranties on all those I would have spent $7K - $10K. Even if I have to buy a new engine out of pocket tomorrow for the Edge I'm still ahead several thousand dollars. I get peace of mind knowing I'm not spending money on something I may never need. But maybe that's just me.

Nobody was deceived about anything. The software was crap and they had no real choice but to try and fix it ASAP. That's not deception. The fact that it took so long to stabilize it is unfortunate but again, not deception and not worthy of a lawsuit. Don't forget there are owners who have had almost no problems even on the initial version. Of course you two essentially said they were lying which was both rude and incorrect. And we're not going down that road again. If you're having problems they should be fixed. At this point the software is stable. It's either bad hardware, a bad phone or some incompatibility.

That should be obvious...

It's just electronics and is no more prone to failure than a regular head unit. They either fail right away or they work for decades absent some external event like a power surge, etc. I'm not worried.

Computer? Huh?

Not if you're looking for full factory functionality including the door locks.

It would require many parts that you don't have even if its possible and would be cheaper to just trade vehicles.

You are such a drama queen that has no idea how companies or software operates and you refuse to listen to those who do.

Lawyers file frivolous suits all the time. A successful CAL is a jackpot for the attorneys while the plaintiffs get pennies. They continue to update MFT because it still has bugs. Your argument would be more valid if ford stopped updating it.

Whatever. It's not worth trying to explain it for the 100th time.

Now that I could support. Why hasn't it been done? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Thus my point.

The type of problem you're describing is rare - especially after replacing the APIM and getting the latest software. Almost has to be some other type of hardware problem. And if one out of 1000 buyers are having the problem you're describing that's not a reason for a class action lawsuit. The other current problems are much more benign. E.g. sometimes mine is slow to ring the phone (about 5-6 seconds), it re-indexes the USB drive when it doesn't need to and the name of the caller doesn't show up in the right hand cluster screen. No problem playing music, making or receiving calls and texts (iphone 5), using the Nav or radio. I do agree that if they can't fix your problems they should buy it back. But that's a case by case individual vehicle issue and not a class action lawsuit.

And it's just as wrong now as it was 3 years ago. The lawsuit even mentions "MyMercuryTouch" which never existed. This is nothing more than ambulance chasing lawyers looking for a payday. Nobody ever denied there were problems. But there was no deception and Ford has worked very hard the last 3 years to fix the problems. The current version in my 2013 Fusion has been virtually flawless with only a couple of very minor issues over the last 5 months and I believe most current owners on 3.5.1 or later are having similar results. As Don Henley would say - GET OVER IT!

Check the filter - could be dirty restricting airflow. I believe it's underneath each seat.

I've never seen anything other than CD number/track number.

I was talking about the ones advocating dark tint.