Shadow ST Report post Posted March 5, 2020 Were are the parts? Ford really hates the Edge ST because they would rather make performance parts F-150 trunks, Mustang, the old Taurus SHO, the Focus, and Fiesta. It bafflers me that for made a vehicle that they will not support. Why is there even an ST badge. Planning non buy a BORLA catback exhaust in the near future. I want a cold air intake for my 2020 Edge ST but no one makes one. I spoke with AEM and they have yet to put one in the works. I feel if we keep contacting them regarding the latest Model ST, they may be willing to create one. Anyone able to get or custom build a cold air intake for the 2019-20 Edge ST? let the world know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vrdublu Report post Posted March 5, 2020 Cold air intakes relatively speaking do not add much of anything, spend your money on a worthwhile upgrade ie: tune, instead. Unless of course you're dead set on the CAI. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special_K Report post Posted March 5, 2020 3 hours ago, vrdublu said: Cold air intakes relatively speaking do not add much of anything, spend your money on a worthwhile upgrade ie: tune, instead. Unless of course you're dead set on the CAI. This is not true, a true CAI does in fact help and has been proven to help. BUT a short ram intake (sucking hot air from engine bay) does not help with power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vrdublu Report post Posted March 5, 2020 Please do share your findings, from what I have seen it's irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. it's a trade off of increased noise with not much gain at all. power to $$$ it's not worth it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xtra Report post Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) As I posted before CAI do make HP. For every 10* F you can reduce the air temp you gain 1% power. So if you are using under hood air that is 170* and you can get 70* outside air into the engine then you are looking at a 10% increase in HP. On a 2020 ST with 335HP thats a 33.5HP gain. Snmjim and I have both attacked the CAI intake problem different ways with self made and designed CAI. I believe his is a better approach, but by using both of our designs together I believe one could achieve maximum results. . Snmjim's is so well done that adding my sight cover may make little difference but it defiantly would not hurt. The ST and Sport have what I call a restricted warm air intake and improvements can be made in flow and temperature that produce real HP. Edited March 5, 2020 by Xtra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
handfiler Report post Posted March 6, 2020 If I'm going to waste my money I'd rather waste it on a better intercooler. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xtra Report post Posted March 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, handfiler said: If I'm going to waste my money I'd rather waste it on a better intercooler. Just as well, you cannot buy a CAI for the Edge anyway. They are not commercially available at this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
handfiler Report post Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Xtra said: Just as well, you cannot buy a CAI for the Edge anyway. They are not commercially available at this time. On turbocharged cars IA2 temperature is much more relevant than IA temperature. That's why my money would go towards a better intercooler. I was deep into the 600 HP numbers with a stock air box on my other car before I went to an aftermarket unit and it's partially open to the engine bay so not a cold air induction by any means. I had to increase air flow a bit to get to my current numbers of just under 700 HP. Oh yes and a bigger intercooler. Edited March 6, 2020 by handfiler 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandore Report post Posted June 3, 2020 Have a CAI on another car and I didn't see any hp gain, although I like the improved sound and throttle response. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
19EdgeST Report post Posted February 19 https://afepower.com/afe-power-52-10003r-rapid-induction-pro-5r-cold-air-intake-system#applications Taking pre orders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
todd92 Report post Posted February 19 (edited) The stock intake is a CAI. I do not understand why people call aftermarket intakes CAI's. More correctly called low restriction intakes. Done right they definitely add power at higher RPM's and throttle response and faster turbo spool up at lower RPM's aFe knows how to make good intakes, I've had 2. This one looks good. Edited February 19 by todd92 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enigma-2 Report post Posted February 20 I keep wondering why Ford, with all their expensive, degreed, automotive engineers, and multimillion dollar, worldwide research facilities, never figured out that putting to air intake somewhere else would instantly add up to 24 more horsepower? Years ago I had a business associate who had worked for Chrysler. We had long discussions about automotive engineering. He was extremely knowledgeable about things like this. He talked about how they studied every possible way of squeezing every drol of horsepower out of the powertrain. Squeezing every mpg out of every drop of gas. Granted, automotive engineering has progressed tenfold since then, but so has knowledge. I guess what im ssying is, don't believe the bullshit these aftermarket companies are spreading. If they can do it, Ford would already have done it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perblue Report post Posted February 21 2 hours ago, enigma-2 said: I keep wondering why Ford, with all their expensive, degreed, automotive engineers, and multimillion dollar, worldwide research facilities, never figured out that putting to air intake somewhere else would instantly add up to 24 more horsepower? Years ago I had a business associate who had worked for Chrysler. We had long discussions about automotive engineering. He was extremely knowledgeable about things like this. He talked about how they studied every possible way of squeezing every drol of horsepower out of the powertrain. Squeezing every mpg out of every drop of gas. Granted, automotive engineering has progressed tenfold since then, but so has knowledge. I guess what im ssying is, don't believe the bullshit these aftermarket companies are spreading. If they can do it, Ford would already have done it. If you read the fine print on the dyno graph they also did a custom catback, which they don't specify what they did, that the stock pull didn't have. So it's possible they seen the gains they did but it wasn't just because of the intake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
todd92 Report post Posted February 21 Auto manufacturers can't make this type of intake stock because of noise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perblue Report post Posted February 21 3 hours ago, todd92 said: Auto manufacturers can't make this type of intake stock because of noise. They can if they chose to, it comes factory on a bullitt mustang. Granted it is a different market but it shows they can if they chose to and wouldn't have seemed out of place on ST models. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
handfiler Report post Posted February 21 5 hours ago, Perblue said: If you read the fine print on the dyno graph they also did a custom catback, which they don't specify what they did, that the stock pull didn't have. So it's possible they seen the gains they did but it wasn't just because of the intake. Gains of 8-12 HP more likely if done under controlled conditions using a stock vehicle. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
handfiler Report post Posted February 21 2 hours ago, Perblue said: They can if they chose to, it comes factory on a bullitt mustang. Granted it is a different market but it shows they can if they chose to and wouldn't have seemed out of place on ST models. And on all GT500's 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
