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This is interesting. My 2011 did it a as well and always used 87. Unfortunately never ran mid or high octane on that vehicle so I don't know if it would have made a difference.

Great advice. A lot of aftermarket wheels with universal fit will come with rings for the more common hub sizes. Without it you are relying solely on the lug nuts to center the wheel and will be a bit more difficult to install/remove them.

Trying to look into a suspicion I have with some of the issues I have noticed with the new ST 8 speed. I have always ran 87 octane until just the other day. I happened to have quite a bit of stop and shop points and nearly maxed out my discount so I decided to fill with 89. I noticed slightly higher boost as expected but also the shutter/bounce effect in the 2/3 shift seems to be greatly reduced. I am wondering if people are experiencing most of the problems when running lower octane gas. Possibly an issue with shift logic and torque targets. Please report what octane you are using ONLY if you are feeling clumsy bucking shifts.

I constantly check YouTube also. I have seen about 50/50 positive and negative reviews. Most negative reviews are garbage. I had to comment on one where they guy test drove a preproduction car inside a building without using sport mode or going over 10mph and concluded it didn’t handle well and had no power. Most legitimate negative reviews have to focus on the transmission as it truely is problematic. Handling is fantastic and it is hard to argue against that fact if you actually drive one.

Prolly shared with multiple vehicles with multiple options. 1 less unique part to have made is a saving.

I suspect they do to an extent. They may run richer and lower boost during a pre-determined mile limit. The focus RS guys have claimed boost is limited at break in also. I also suspect that to be a reason for poor performance in early reviews. I haven't been able to find a good flat road to test and I don't have a G-tech logger or anything but from video timer I have seen under 6 seconds to 60 with slight uphill roads running 87 octain winter gas.

I guess its the 6F50 then correct? Yeah was the valve body mod.

My 2011 sport with the 6F55 did that a few times. eventually a TSB was released that addressed it. Seemed to almost skip 2nd gear most of the time after the TSB though. My ST has done a few really clunky shifts and the bucking into 3rd fairly frequently now but will only hesitate when traction control is needed (Moderate throttle around a sandy turn).

I think I might make my own build number plate. Made a super quick crude model and I think I like it.

Yeah I have that same problem.. i don't even pay attention to fuel economy for that reason. My drive to work is 2.7 miles... I really would bike to work if we didn't have horrid winters and blazing hot summers here.

Anyone with the brake package gets summer only tires and no spare.

I would bet either the rim dented or just broke the bead. You will know pretty quickly once you get the wheel to a tire shop.

Unless you have recently replaced something in the braking system i would rule out off-gassing as a probable culprit. In the case something was changed it introduces a ton of new variables.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2018/RCLRPT-18V777-2781.PDF This is the actual complaint. its a plating process with a skipped or incorrectly performed post plating stress relief. I am process engineer in an aerospace repair station. Very familiar with the process. With us it would be a much bigger deal though lol.

Read into it.. the defect is caused by excess hydrogen not being properly dissipated due to failure to properly post plate oven temper. its a short term off-gassing that will occur at operating temp. Remedy is a single brake bleeding procedure. It would be a very small amount of hydrogen that would potentially end up in the hydraulic system and will result only in minimally degraded braking performance. It would have happened back when the calipers were brand new.

Read into it.. the defect is caused by excess hydrogen not being properly dissipated due to failure to properly post plate oven temper. its a short term that will occur at operating temp. Remedy is a single brake bleeding procedure. It would be a very small amount of hydrogen that would potentially end up in the hydraulic system and will result only in minimally degraded braking performance. It would have happened back when the calipers were brand new.

The off gassing theory sounds odd. Off gassing into a seal hydraulic system would mean chemical reaction with brake fluid and formation of gas bubbles causing displacement. Any significant displacement will cause overfill of the brake fluid and will be reflected in the reservoir and/or high pedal.. A once correctly topped off system will slowly magically seem to gain fluid.

That is awesome! Do you know if the 3.0 is a over bored 2.7? Looks like they are both Nano engines but is the 3.0 also compacted graphite modular block?

I looked into it also. At one point i remember it saying the word "larger" but looking now it simply says the size. I asked a Ford rep and they said the brake upgrade is unique rotors and upgraded pads. They could not confirm rotor size but a larger rotor would require caliper spacer or a whole different design.

Thats alot of work for .3L displacement. Are there any great tunes for the 3.0 yet? Again is the 3.0L block and internals superior? It might even be a downgrade for all we know. Is the Lincoln MKZ the only vehicle on the platform using the 3.0L it uses a 6 speed trans.. are there any 3.0L vehicles using the 8 speed?

The engine orientation doesn't really negate my point. Its shows people recognize the potential of the 2.7 and are interested in exploiting it. The edge 2nd gen as much as you may have loved it was not the most popular platform for enthusiasts. The ST takes that same platform and tries to say "Look this is a car you all know... but re-engineered to be fun". Ford is trying to re-market the car to replace some of the small cars. I agree the brake package is ridiculous but the regular brakes are phenomenal. The 2.7 i feel is the right engine still though as they would have to do some real magic to rework the trans-axle to handle the power and abuse people would put it though. All that work to gain 60hp and 10ft/lbs torque with some potential added weight. Also do you know if the 3.0 also uses the compacted graphite modular block? If not I would definitely stick with the 2.7.

Fords 2.7L has a ton of attention but mostly in the F150. The edge again was always seen as a pretty vanilla CUV and was always lost in the crowd (Other than when people would see them in person). The sport model only seemed to get any recognition in the 2011-2014 models as its wheels and unique trim options made it stand out more, unfortunately its performance was never much greater than a regular trim level edge. Ford is now trying something new with the ST, cripple the base trim and bring the top model in as a Ford performance vehicle rather than a simple trim level. It is an opportunity to change the image of the edge as a mom car to a performance CUV and hopefully it works.

Probably true... Would be mostly due to world market. US sales for all Q5 models are half that of US sales of all Edge models. I would imagine a higher percent of fords are sport trim than Audi sells S models. But those figures are blown out of the water once you factor Europe. Again.. we are only 6 months in to the earliest possible delivered ST. I would give it some time to see if demand fuels aftermarket parts.

All of it’s closest performing competitors are well embraced by tuners and weekend racers. I would say the correct demographic is the person who wants to go fast but probably won’t, yet practicality keeps them from buying a real sports car. Same person who buys a canned tune yet never goes to the track. Or pays for a cat back just to change the exhaust note and claims “seat of the pants” gains. 43-50k is a mini van or a pretty basic work truck. The one who chooses the edge ST knows they want sport and like the bragging rights.

The consumers don’t care about sales and profit margins. Ford May have a totally different agenda but PR needs to be in touch with what people respond to. I feel the ad campaign is going in the right direction but a bit on the soft side. “Sneaky fast” just feels odd. Like a 3rd grade class was tasked with making the ad.