junehhan

It would be just wrong if Ford was to sell something badged as a "sport" trim level without the tach, wouldn't it? It is a digital tachometer. That left hand screen is pretty impressive with just the amount of information you can get. On top of the digital tachometer, you can get an AWD power allocation flow diagram in real time, individual tyre pressures for each tire, real time charting of fuel economy, and so on. Ford has really set the gold standard in terms of just how much information you can get and this all started with the original Fusion Hybrid and its use of a twin split screen setup.

The reality is that you should change your tires if you start to feel that they are becoming unsafe rather than trying to benchmark a certain amount of miles to get from them. Tires start to seriously lose rain and snow traction at about the 50% tread level. By the time they wear down to the legal level, they can be downright dangerous in rain or snow. What you feel comfortable with should dictate when to change them as a result.

Guys, DO NOT use any induction service or spray anything into the intake. Ford came out with a bulletin to dealers a while back saying exactly that. I will take the word of Ford engineers before I will take the word of a company that makes their living selling these things which includes many dealers who are their clients. The cliff notes version was that you can destroy your turbos by using these induction type services. There are 3 ways that you can destroy your turbos. The first is that it can blow chunks of carbon loose which goes through the engine and out into the turbos which destroys the turbine blades. The second is that these chemicals can seep past the piston rings and get into the oil and destroy the turbo bearings. The third is that when running these services, it can cause the catalytic converter to get hot enough from running rich that it can destroy the turbos due to their proximity. From what I have seen from looking at videos of the Bimmer, VW, and Audi crowd is that walnut shell blasting followed by using a solvent and sucking it out may be the best way to handle this if you develop drivability issues.

They are not necessarily releasing cars with defects. Anytime major changes are made, the suppliers and contractors that manufacture these components for Ford need a learning curve to get their processes straightened out. This is perhaps why some companies like Toyota are not interested in reinventing the wheel while others like Ford are always trailblazing into new things.

The issue I would have with that is that those metal intakes can really absorb and hold a lot of heat. It would look nice though. On a hot day driving in rush hour traffic, the intake could get seriously hot.

The other thing about catch cans that could become an issue depending on where you live is that they are NOT emissions legal. It is against federal law to modify the factory emissions control system in any way. So long as your Edge passes smog without any Christmas lights on the dashboard, you should be fine but just keep that in mind. People swear by them but we just do not have any evidence to determine whether they help or not. We do know that there are plenty of high mileage 3.5's in the F150 world right now that have no drivability issues despite some of them having some funky looking buildup inside. We will probably have to wait till we start seeing a few high mileage 3.5's hit that were running a catch can.

FWIW, a lot of the manufacturers had a hell of a time when different engine related components like the intake manifolds started going plastic. I would have never guessed that oil pans would be going plastic, but it will get better over time. I just hope my 2016 is late enough that these issues affecting the earlier 2.7's don't pop up.

When in doubt, blame it on the Canadians since they build the Edge.

I don't get this either. I think Ford has nailed the dash cluster out of the park in terms of readability and usability. It has to be personal preference as my Fusion Titanium was just like this and I was pleased to see that Ford kept the exact same setup for our Edge Sports.

Between regular the premium fuel, I believe that the difference is about 8hp on the 2.0 litre. The big difference you may be feeling is that the torque curve is flatter and more aggressive with premium fuel. I am now on my 3rd Ecoboost and that is what my butt dyno told me when I tried different octane fuels out in my previous Ecoboosts which were the 3.5 and 2.0. I currently have the 2.7.

Exactly. That is a phrase that economists have pretty much made famous. Just because the lunch seems free doesn't mean that it is costing you in some other form. Most companies have people in marketing dedicated towards making people think they are getting something for nothing.

Welcome. I envy your geographical location as there is the potential to get some flat out open highway fun going on. Around me, the congestion is so horrible that I am lucky to get a WOT run in every 1k miles or so.

FWIW, Ford did listen regarding the PTU as I know that at least the 2015+ Sports have a drain plug in them. The non-sport Edge may have it also but I have not verified. BTW, before you accuse people of being Ford apologists, know that people normally come to forums to bitch and moan. Most of it is valid, some not. However for those of us who have been around a while, it gets very annoying. Nothing against people as it is human nature to want an outlet to vent your frustrations as well as do research on the experiences of others, but just understand that. If you think having 3 problems on a high mileage vehicle is a big concern, I can connect you to an acquaintance of mine with a Scion that has 56k miles that is just having insane issues with sensors going bad. AWD vehicles are also going to have wear related issues as the miles pile up just as with anything drivetrain related. I have seen AWD systems break at earlier miles, and I have seen old school part time 4WD transfer cases go out at less miles as well.

That type of drivetrain failure should have triggered some sort of warning light. Hopefully we find out what it is as this may be the very first recorded 2015+ Edge Sport drivetrain failure.

You heard correctly. The reality is that extended idling to warm your car up is a very lousy way to warm your engine up. The longer it takes for your engine to reach proper operating tolerances, the more stuff you are going to get past the rings into the oil. Unless you live in Fairbanks Alaska or International Falls, MN or other very cold place, you do not need to idle your car for more than a minute or so. The quicker you get driving, the quicker it will actually warm up. The best way to do it is to idle for a very limited amount of time and then drive easy until the engine warms up fully. About 5 minutes after your temperature gauge shows normal temps, you can then perform a celebratory WOT run.

Yup welcome. You are in good hands here because most of the guys posting in this thread have already went through it.

Fuel dilution is going to be an issue on anything with GTDI engine. It is not as much of an issue though unless you do a lot of really short driving trips that never allows the engine to ever warm up. If this fits your driving pattern, you will want to change the oil at more frequent intervals. The issues are two fold as you have fuel being directly injected into the combustion chamber combined with the artificial boost and higher compression ratios that can really increase blowby past the piston rings into the crank case. If you guys think this is bad, you havn't seen anything yet as the fuel dilution is horrendous on engines like the Subaru WRX's GTDI flat 4. It is just the nature of the beast and likely still will not be fully solved with the move towards dual fuel injection systems like on the new second generation 3.5 litre ecoboost.

Perhaps that can happen if we get together for a factory tour or something. Maybe you can bring it up with your regional representative who could do something? The concept of taking one for the team is sadly a fact of life. Without people taking one for the team, we would have no product. Without the early adopters(knowingly or unknowingly) who take that risk, no enthusiast level product would ever continue production as the bean counters would be unable to justify a product that didn't sell well and thus we would never see good things continue being developed and refined. These new and neat things are why many of us drive a Ford who is a company that keeps things on the cutting edge technology wise. It is what gives these cars their soul and substance.

Alpha testers are usually in house and get paid. Beta testers are usually public and do not get paid. It is very likely that the system was indeed beta tested thoroughly by the quality control experts. After all, this issue has still remained isolated in nature as we have not seen any mobs with pitchforks the way we saw when the Yamaha v8's started failing in the 96-99 Taurus SHO's. The difference is that with any new technology, there will be a learning curve involved with the manufacture and assembly processes. There are 3 possible fixes according to the TSB. Only one indicates a complete defect requiring a complete replacement of the wheel. While it still makes me very nervous to have something like this, I have fallen in love with this as it makes driving in tight underground parking garages and tight city streets very easy. Someone will always have to take one for the team in the form of early adopters. Be glad most of you guys were instrumental in the development of the 3 TSB's that will benefit other fellow early adopters who potentially could still have this issue. You guys have done a good service for the enthusiast community and your successes are why this amazing feature is now being offered on the 2017+ Superduty trucks!

A lot of what a dealer is able to do really depends on what factory to dealer incentives Ford is giving to the dealer. This is known as dealer-cash and is not available to the public. This can even be different from region to region. If a vehicle is not receiving any extra dealer cash from Ford, you really will not be negotiating very much below invoice if at all. These hidden incentives only available to the dealer are why you constantly hear about people being able to negotiate $10+k off of their Ford, Dudge, or Chebby 1/2 ton trucks. Very seldom will a dealer be willing to take an actual "loss" on the sale of a vehicle unless they have become desperate. You are correct that cars that do not sell have overhead associated with them as nearly every dealer finances their inventory. The same is true in the fine jewelry business as many finance their inventory.

As much as I hate to admit it, most people are not enthusiasts like us. They put whatever fuel is convenient or cheap and then takes it in for an oil change when that light pops up on the dash. I utilize the rule that any car that does not have me looking back at it as I walk away after parking it is not a car worth owning.

Something to remember if you are doing a custom exhaust is that very few exhaust shops(literally very very few) have a mandrel bender. Most utilize a crush bender which adds restrictive kinks in all the bends. The material is also important as most utilize economy grade aluminized steel which has a much shorter life than high quality grades of stainless such as T409(most common due to price) or T304(very high quality and will outlast your car). The other thing they better keep in mind is the ensure that their system retains the equal length nature of the stock system.

That makes 3 oil pan leaks that we know of on the 2.7 Ecoboost. One of the guys on our Ford Ecoboost forum also just recently had his replaced on his 2015.

The Ecoboosts that seem to have more carbon issues are the 2.0 and the 2.3. The 2.7 is still too new, but there are a ton of 3.5's in the F150's that have a ton of miles on them without having carbon issues yet. I suspect that the 2.7's will be similar considering that it was an all new engine designed from the ground up to do what it does. Also looking at soot covered tailpipes is not an indication of how much carbon the backside of the intake valves have. It is the nature of these GTDI engines in that boost and higher compression ratios with DI will mean extra particulates. They also tend to run a little richer as a safety measure as it keeps things cooler which means more unburnt stuff coming out as well.

Actually, I believe the active steering system does use a mechanical linkage if I am not mistaken. That was one of the unique aspects to Ford's active ratio steering system compared to the competition. Ford developed their system utilizing a set of gears inside the steering wheel itself that does all of the work. If Ford was using a steer by wire system like some high end luxury cars, you sure as hell can bet I would not have bought this vehicle. The thought of a steer by wire system would freak me out when I barely even trust these drive by wire systems with the electronic throttle bodies. Ford's design is pretty unique and is a way of doing adaptive active ratio steering in a way no one else even considered. A German company makes it, but Ford owns a few patents on it.