WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 If it's the 2.0 Ecoboost 420/Cleveland engine, could be a classic 2-3 cylinder coolant intrusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmechanic Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 22 hours ago, Perblue said: Sounds like a water pump, especially if it's a 3.5l, or head gasket causing your issues. It is a 2.0. I changed the water pump because it overheated and had the heater issue just before overheating. I hope its not the head gasket lol. 22 hours ago, WWWPerfA_ZN0W said: If it's the 2.0 Ecoboost 420/Cleveland engine, could be a classic 2-3 cylinder coolant intrusion. Do you know how I can confirm this classic coolant intrusion? Ill do some research as well, but seeing if you had some suggestions to get a head start on confirming this. Thank yall for the info/replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmechanic Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 22 hours ago, WWWPerfA_ZN0W said: If it's the 2.0 Ecoboost 420/Cleveland engine, could be a classic 2-3 cylinder coolant intrusion. I just saw the youtube video on the MACTFORDEDGE.....more research to go lol.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musclford Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 just ordered a new long block for my 2016 awd Edge. loss of coolant and ruff start 43k miles, just inside factory warranty... by 7 months 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackedDSM Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 How hard would it be to swap in the 2.3 from the mustang or the focus RS? They’ve got the headgasket issues pretty well licked. And it’d be a nice little bump in power. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 Has anyone had assistance from Ford when this failure occurred outside the warranty mileage and period? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiutah1080 Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, 1004ron said: Has anyone had assistance from Ford when this failure occurred outside the warranty mileage and period? Nope. I was at 77k miles when this happened to me and I was basically told I was S.O.L. NO assistance was offered at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 might check around with one of the lawyers that have filed suit. if they have access to mediation with Ford, you may get recompensed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiutah1080 Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 42 minutes ago, WWWPerfA_ZN0W said: might check around with one of the lawyers that have filed suit. if they have access to mediation with Ford, you may get recompensed. Check this site: https://www.lieffcabraser.com/defect/ford-coolant/ I signed up using the form, we'll see if I hear back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorMoni Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 I am having the gurgling noises now... I sure hope it's not a coolant system problem. I just had to have a brand-new tranny put in 3 months ago. Luckily I am still under warranty so it was a free tranny - but warranty is not for much longer. Can we extend our warranties? I have to look and see what I signed up for when I bought this car used last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetjq Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 45 minutes ago, GatorMoni said: Can we extend our warranties? I have to look and see what I signed up for when I bought this car used last year. Wait, you don't get a call from someone named Leslie or Suzie a couple of times a week offering to extend your warranty? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snox801 Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 On 5/18/2021 at 7:17 PM, CrackedDSM said: How hard would it be to swap in the 2.3 from the mustang or the focus RS? They’ve got the headgasket issues pretty well licked. And it’d be a nice little bump in power. ? Easy as pie. Everything bolts up in fact some guys build the 2.3 out of 2.0 blocks to get rid of the open deck. I am not one but I have my 4K miles rs engine and turbo waiting for my 2.0 to fail but it hasn’t even being tuned for over 100k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcinci Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 My 2016 Edge with 95k just started losing coolant. Like others no sign of an external leak. Losing about 5-6oz per day. I’ve been watching it since I first read about this problem last year. Guess it’s my turn. Anyway, has anyone tried Blue Devil head gasket sealer? I used that on an old Mazda3 head gasket leak with good results. I’m thinking to try it here too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, Tcinci said: My 2016 Edge with 95k just started losing coolant. Like others no sign of an external leak. Losing about 5-6oz per day. I’ve been watching it since I first read about this problem last year. Guess it’s my turn. Anyway, has anyone tried Blue Devil head gasket sealer? I used that on an old Mazda3 head gasket leak with good results. I’m thinking to try it here too. Not a long term fix, and unlikely it will be effective for this type of head gasket issue, but you've got nothing to lose. A friend of mine has just installed a new engine with nothing offered from Ford - they said that he'd need to pay for a strip-down and diagnostics and only then would they decided if they would extend any "good will". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcinci Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 Why isn’t this just a head gasket change? Or if it’s the head casting that’s micro racking the a head change. I don’t understand the block change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 12 hours ago, Tcinci said: Why isn’t this just a head gasket change? Or if it’s the head casting that’s micro racking the a head change. I don’t understand the block change. Because it’s a flaw in the block coolant passages. They used a slot and that lead to cracking in the block. They changed it to a drilled passage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTVFD1 Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 Had a misfire code on the #3 cylinder. Pulled the plug a noticed it was wet. Replaced plug and car still ran a little rough. My wife called me and said the car wouldn't start. Supposedly the car hydro locked. Took it to the shop and was told it probably needs a long block which is on national backorder with Ford with no release date. Really regretting buying this car. 75000 miles and I need an engine. I have owned nothing but Fords since 86, this may be my last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 work with ford corporate to see if they will share the cost of the new engine with you. be nice but firm. you never know. sometimes you can find a law firm that has filed suit for this problem and request a mediation if ford is not forthcoming just to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 20 hours ago, WWWPerfA_ZN0W said: work with ford corporate to see if they will share the cost of the new engine with you. be nice but firm. you never know. sometimes you can find a law firm that has filed suit for this problem and request a mediation if ford is not forthcoming just to you. I gave the same advice to my friend, but the only way Ford would consider any form of compensation was for him to commit to covering the bill of a strip-down and diagnostics, and he wasn't prepared to risk paying that and the price of a new engine. He got a new long block from Ford and an independent service shop installed it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 well, as with any other well known problem that ford has issued tsbs but not recalls for, keep the bills handy, explore options with legal counsel to get recompensed. i would not give up on the legal angle. the coolant level should have been dropping, there may be a misfire with or without code, and the plug in the misfiring cylinder as well as the piston/valves should look remarkably clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17Ville2.0 Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Just bought the car a week or two ago and had a couple small issues, the waterfall sound at startup and after a couple days’ driving it threw a P0301 misfire code on cylinder 1. Symptom was a rough shuddery idle the first ten seconds or so on a cold start then ran fine the rest of the time. Pulled the plugs and replaced with NGK Ruthenium’s, old plugs were pretty gross. Also cylinder one plug (far left facing the engine) was different than the others as you can see in the pic so someone saw the code before and just threw a single plug at it, no idea why you’d do that. Anyway installed the new plugs and cleared the code, also burped the coolant system and haven’t had the waterfall sound since. Car ran way better for a week or so then the same code came back so I’m thinking coil packs next, unless someone has anything else to try before I go to that. Thanks for any and all help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handfiler Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 Could be a faulty coil but I wouldn't rule out a faulty injector either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17Ville2.0 Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 Thanks a bunch for the reply. I’ll probably go ahead and replace all four coils anyway because why not at 70K, then if the issue persists we’ll go from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 35 minutes ago, 17Ville2.0 said: Thanks a bunch for the reply. I’ll probably go ahead and replace all four coils anyway because why not at 70K, then if the issue persists we’ll go from there Why? I have 71K miles on my Sport, and expect my ignition coils to last more than twice that - if the time comes, I'll only replace a component like that if testing confirms its failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 55 minutes ago, handfiler said: Could be a faulty coil but I wouldn't rule out a faulty injector either. Correct, and some diagnostics should be able to identify it. Running a fuel system cleaner in a couple of tanks costs very little and can do no harm, and could clear a fouled injector. Seeing that one foreign incorrect spark plug makes me cringe, and conjurers up an image of a drunk redneck shade tree "mechanic" working on it - a clear sign that its been abused. 17Ville2.0 what's the mileage? Do you have the service record? Did you research its history on places like CarFax? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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